Will Wolves trade for Hinrich

[mnWI]

Any GM who 'builds' around Foye is just asking to be fired. Foye is a piece, but not a centerpiece.

[Sever82]

I disagree. If the deal was Cardinal for Hinrich at the trade deadline, we were trading our guy with $9.5 mil remaining on his contract for CHI's guy with $30 mil remaining (for two additional years). Now it would be trading our $6.75 mil for their $26.5 mil guy. As a player like Cardinal reaches his final year, his trade value as an expiring grows a great deal. Hinrich, who's on the books through 2011, does not see such an increase in value.

However, its simpler than that. Is Hinrich on a good deal? Is he worth an expiring, which will be added to our raw cap space the following summer?

I say no. Hinrich is a good player, but good players don't get three-year, $26.5 mil deals any more. He is not worth expirings.

I would not offer Cardinal and Madsen for Hinrich.

Wow dude, you probably do need a shrink, you have your stories mixed up because it wasn't minny that pulled out but it was Chicago, Check your facts. I thought you only made that comment on the topic i started, wow i guess you're trying to convince yourself hinrich isn't worth Madsen and Cardinal LOL

[LOBO 7]

Hinrich plays defense and he's shooting 42% from 3 and he can run an offense, so I'm ready for some Hinrich action.

About 42% of his shots this season are 3's

Wow, you're both right. If he's shooting 42% from 3, and 42% of his shots are 3's, does that mean that there's an 84% chance that I want to trade for him, or is it still just a 42% chance? I was never great with math...

[ChazzleDazzle]

Wow dude, you probably do need a shrink, you have your stories mixed up because it wasn't minny that pulled out but it was Chicago, Check your facts. I thought you only made that comment on the topic i started, wow i guess you're trying to convince yourself hinrich isn't worth Madsen and Cardinal LOL

To be fair, no one said the Wolves pulled out. Just that they weren't willing to trade expirings. Meaning the Wolves opinion of Heinrich's value was lower than the Bulls (which is nowhere near shocking...)

But thanks for your misguided derision.

[john2jer]

The deal was basically...

Chicago offered Hinrich for Collins+filler - Wolves said no.

Wolves offered Cardinal+filler for Hinrich - Bulls said no.

Chicago wanted expirings, Wolves didn't want to offer expirings. Wolves offered 2010 expirings, Chicago said no.

[NewWolvesOrder]

hinrich and noah for miller and telfair plus celtics pick. wolves get a vet pg and a shotblocking young center.

[slinky]

In general I think it is fair value, but to Shrink's point, and I completely agree, hinrich's contract will not reflect the coming market for point guards. And for a team that wont compete for another year or two, why pay that much money to an average to above average point guard.

I would find it interesting to see how much money kidd, bibby or andre miller get this year. If we dont sign a decent vet PG this year, than we draft a young guy and we wait until 2010, where guards like tj ford, ridnour, duhon, alston, nash, and blake are available. I guarantee you hinrich's contract will be available during the season next year as well. So why not let the market play itself out before committing 26 million dollars to a guy who might be worth half that. I have read some of the same people in this forum who lamented the wolves spending habits in the past advocate trading for a good player on a horrible contract. We cant preach fiscal responsibility and then ask them to trade for someone who is on a horrible contract. Let the PG market play itself out this summer, CHI will still want to unload the salary in September and maybe even February of next year, we can always have him them for the same expirings being "offered" now.

And again, the wolves shouldnt give up much for hinrich, expirings maybe, but we are doing CHI a favor by trading for hinrich. CHI has zero leverage in trade talks. Fred Stack can simply ask CHI if they would rather have Bosh or Hinrich. I understand Hinrich is above average bball player, but I believe he has below average value currently.

[revprodeji]

Any GM who 'builds' around Foye is just asking to be fired. Foye is a piece, but not a centerpiece.

Piece of what?

[invno1]

Piece of work....I hope that Timberwolves can move on from that....Would love Hinrich....Have also heard Dalember's name again and that is another interesting idea. A vet at the 1 or 5 is a very good idea. Hinrich is so far above what the Timberwolves have and provides solid leadership not only for a rook 1 but a very nice floor general.

[mnWI]

Any GM who 'builds' around Foye is just asking to be fired. Foye is a piece, but not a centerpiece.

Piece of what?

Haha. He's a piece on a good team. As in a solid complimentary player. But not a guy you can say you want to build around.

[revprodeji]

I know, I am just bored and thought I would pitch you a slow one...

[4ho5ive]

I was gonna be mad at you rev

[revprodeji]

for?