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Post#1 » by john2jer » Mon May 11, 2009 6:01 pm

Ok, some people liked, and some people didn't like my T-Mac trade, but, with recent wiretappings of T-Mac to New York, how about we help make it happen?

Wolves get - Cuttino Mobley and #8
Rockets get - Mike Miller and Eddy Curry
Knicks get - Tracy McGrady and #28

Draft:
#5 - Evans
#8 - DeRozan
#18 - Mullens

C - Jefferson/Mullens
PF - Love/Smith
SF - Gomes/Brewer
SG - DeRozan/Foye
PG - Evans/Telfair

It makes it even better if Mobley's covered by insurance anyway. I can't seem to find that info anywhere.

Why for the Wolves? We move Mike Miller's productive expiring for Mobley's insurance covered(?) unproductive expiring and get another lottery pick by helping New York clear 2010 salary.

Why for the Rockets? There's talk of a T-Mac to New York trade for Hughes and Mobley, neither of which help them. They're in a win now mode, and with Yao's injury history and Dikembe retiring, they need a back-up center. They don't run as much as New York likes to, so Curry could fit in here coming abck in better shape next year. Also Mike Miller has already been discussed as the perfect back-up swingman, plus he's expiring, so better than Mobley and less of a b-word than Hughes.

Why for the Knicks? They get a potential do everything star player in McGrady and clear 2010 salary.

Other options are the Knicks moving Hughes, Mobley, Cury, or Jeffries in some combination. Many different combos work here.
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Post#2 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon May 11, 2009 6:16 pm

I wouldn't consider it if I was Houston
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Post#3 » by Krapinsky » Mon May 11, 2009 6:46 pm

This might be fair if Mike Miller were as good as Dwayne Wade. There's still hope. He just has to shoot more.
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Post#4 » by Mayoistooslow » Mon May 11, 2009 6:50 pm

A lot of posters are gonna give me a hard time for saying this, but I would want T-Mac in that deal. I think we could be a western conference threat if we had a lineup simliar to:

Telfair
Foye/Brewer
T-Mac/Gomes
Love
Jefferson

I realize T-Mac had a horrible year, but it's not like we would have to give up a lot to get him, at least in this deal.
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Post#5 » by john2jer » Mon May 11, 2009 6:56 pm

I'd brought up getting McGrady before. Some were in favor of it.

As far as Miller, though, he fits in perfect with a solid team. They've shown they're not a major piece away from being a legit contender. McGrady isn't worth Wade. He's a broken down crabby pants. This trade gets them a solid 6th man swingman, and a back-up center which they need.
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Post#6 » by Krapinsky » Mon May 11, 2009 6:57 pm

Mayoistooslow wrote:A lot of posters are gonna give me a hard time for saying this, but I would want T-Mac in that deal. I think we could be a western conference threat if we had a lineup simliar to:

Telfair
Foye/Brewer
T-Mac/Gomes
Love
Jefferson

I realize T-Mac had a horrible year, but it's not like we would have to give up a lot to get him, at least in this deal.


Wiat we get the #8 pick for nothing, and you want T-Mac (assuming that is another good thing, it's not)?

Hey man if you think Mayo is too slow, what's there to say about Gramps McGrady? I would have to change my ID to Mcgradyissoslowsomeonecheckhispulse. Guy walks around on the court like he has an invisible walker in front of him.
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Post#7 » by Calinks » Mon May 11, 2009 6:59 pm

McGrady is broken. Never a good idea to buy broken products.
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Post#8 » by Krapinsky » Mon May 11, 2009 6:59 pm

john2jer wrote:I'd brought up getting McGrady before. Some were in favor of it.

As far as Miller, though, he fits in perfect with a solid team. They've shown they're not a major piece away from being a legit contender. McGrady isn't worth Wade. He's a broken down crabby pants. This trade gets them a solid 6th man swingman, and a back-up center which they need.


No, but taking on Eddy Curry's contract in a deal might be worth also getting Wade.
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Post#9 » by john2jer » Mon May 11, 2009 7:06 pm

Assuming Houston re-signs Artest, Scola, Landry, and Miller, they won't be having much for cap space, so if Curry's looking better this summer, it's not as bad as if the Wolves took on Curry.
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Post#10 » by shrink » Mon May 11, 2009 7:29 pm

Nice work john2jer. This is a very interesting and unique trade. Its an improvement on the rumors for all involved.
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Post#11 » by karch34 » Mon May 11, 2009 7:35 pm

I like the idea a lot. I have thought trading Miller(or Cardinal and/or other expirings)+28 for a bad contract to get another high pick might not be a bad move.

Two picks in the top 10 to get our back court of DeRozen, Harden, Evans, Lawson, Jennings, Flynn, etc. and then using 18 on Mullens would fill the holes. The issue of course would be who we would have to take on to do it, whether it's a Mobley, Curry, Richard Jefferson, Jamal Crawford, etc.

I think the Knicks would do this trade, the Wolves should definitely consider it, and not sure if Houston would.
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Post#12 » by KiDdFrESh » Mon May 11, 2009 8:45 pm

Switch Mobley with Eddy Curry and your closer to deal.

No way in hell the Rockets take on Eddy Curry. If your getting the 8th pick you should be taking on Eddy Curry.
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Post#13 » by john2jer » Mon May 11, 2009 8:55 pm

Eddy Curry's contract isn't pretty, this I agree. But who plays back-up center for the Rockets? Or rather who's their starter when Yao gets hurt?

Also, McGrady for Mobley and Miller? No chance.
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Post#14 » by Mayoistooslow » Mon May 11, 2009 9:37 pm

Dr.Krapinsky wrote:
Mayoistooslow wrote:A lot of posters are gonna give me a hard time for saying this, but I would want T-Mac in that deal. I think we could be a western conference threat if we had a lineup simliar to:

Telfair
Foye/Brewer
T-Mac/Gomes
Love
Jefferson

I realize T-Mac had a horrible year, but it's not like we would have to give up a lot to get him, at least in this deal.


Wiat we get the #8 pick for nothing, and you want T-Mac (assuming that is another good thing, it's not)?

Hey man if you think Mayo is too slow, what's there to say about Gramps McGrady? I would have to change my ID to Mcgradyissoslowsomeonecheckhispulse. Guy walks around on the court like he has an invisible walker in front of him.


Mcgrady was slow last year, but injuries played a big part of it. He's consistently been an athletic player his whole career, and he still has the ability to take over games. If we were able to take a shot at him I wouldn't mind it, and if he recovers from his injury, it could really pay off.
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Post#15 » by Krapinsky » Mon May 11, 2009 11:12 pm

john2jer wrote:Eddy Curry's contract isn't pretty, this I agree. But who plays back-up center for the Rockets? Or rather who's their starter when Yao gets hurt?

Also, McGrady for Mobley and Miller? No chance.


You're really dropping the ball from Houston's perspective on this one, J2J, which is saying something since I normally like the way you think.

Picture yourself as Daryl Morey, GM of the Rockets. Maybe you're in your office, feet up on your desk, glossing over stats. All of a sudden the phone rings. It's Donnie Walsh.

Donnie: "Hey Daryl, Don Walsh here, how you doing."

Daryl: "Pretty good Donnie. I got the #1 money maker in the game in Yao. I got the largest expiring contract in the NBA in McGrady. Did you know Lebron, Wade and Bosh are going to fee agents next year? And then finally I got a ton of great overachieving players in Brooks, Scola, Hayes, Landry, and Lowry that are currently some of the best bargains in the game and who are currently scaring the death out of one of the two best teams in basketball. Yeah, I would say things are pretty good."

Donnie: "Yeah, that doesn't sound too shabby. How would you like to give me that cap space in 2010 instead, and in return, I give you perhaps the most horrid contract in basketball outside of Beno Udrih? " Oh, and to top it off this contract belongs to a player that plays the same position as your franchise player, so not only will you be tieing up half your salary cap in one position, you'll be doing it on a guy that hasn't played in about a year and a half and is about 20 pounds over weight."

Daryl: (click)

Donnie: Daryl? Daryl? You there buddy? Ah hell, it'll have to be Dunleavy again.
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Post#16 » by the_bruce » Tue May 12, 2009 12:44 am

This would almost be fair if the rockets had a bad contract that went into 2010 and it was outgoing so that Curry would only EAT a portion of 2010 cap money. HOU is in a great position with cap space in the future so why waste it?
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Post#17 » by john2jer » Tue May 12, 2009 1:27 am

So let me get this straight, Dr. K, you're saying no? :-)
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