The thread where I talk about not giving up on Randy Foye

[john2jer]

We're not supposed to have favorites, but ah screw it, Dr K, you're my favorite.

Major League, gotta love it.

[big3_8_19_21]

Really? Saying Randy Foye is the resurrection is a pretty big insult to JC. I mean saying he's better than Ben Gordon is one thing, but are you saying Foye and the son of God are on par?

I watch Foye. I talk to Rev about Jesus and I'm sorry John, but Jesus is WAY better than Foye. It's not even close.

Dr...or "home-wrecking J2J heart stealer" or whatever it is they call you these days...I totally agree, but you really gotta cite some statistics if you are going to make a claim like Jesus>Foye.

I can't find the almighty's player file on ESPN, but I found this article that cites some of his career stats.

For their careers:

Baby Gap:
13.0 ppg
3.7 apg
King of the Jews:
18.2 ppg
7.3 apg

However, Foye did manage to measure out as more athletic than God in the Flesh as the Holy One's vert only measured out at a sub-par 24 inches compared to Foye's pre-draft combine max vert of an impressive 38 inches.

While more naturally physically gifted, it's clear that the Savior's BBIQ and slippery change of pace moves make up for his lack of God given athleticism.

[Zeitgeister]

I'm pretty sure that in the bible there is a prophecy about the one with the reversed organs, who aside from ushering in the dawning of the age of aquarius, will be the G.O.A.T. in basketball during his spare time.

[mandurugo]

So the wolves somehow managed to draft the wrong reversed organ basketball player? Jeez, McHale sucks.

[JMillott]

I think that if you can extend Foye this summer at 5 years and 30/35 million that you do it. He is a capable starting SG in my opinion who can give you 16/4/4 while giving 100+ threes every year. He has enough upside to get to 18/5/4 with 150 threes a year in a few of those years in my opinion.

I think the Wolves have very guys that aren't the problem.

Al Jefferson is a great PF that can play at C as well.

Kevin Love is a great backup PF/C who gives the Wolves great bigman depth.

Randy Foye is a solid SG who can also play at PG in limited minutes as well.

Mike Miller is a excellent backup SF/SG who is good enough to earn 6th MOTY votes going forward.

That is basically it everyone else is part of the problem unless Brewer turns the corner offensively as a SF.

[Dewey]

Don't want to make this a Brewer thing, but his scoring relevance is directly related to the performance of our guards (specifically Telfair and Foye). Brewer was drafted for defense, athleticism, and ofensive potential.

At this point, I have far more concern for Foye's future than I do Brewer's.

[LordBaldric]

I do love that we're regressing our expectations, though. Wasn't he supposed to be a big-breasted Dwayne Wade originally?

I see what you did there.

I see what YOU did there. Dirty, but I like it.

I think most people are coming to the realization that he's a good 6th man, a combo guard off the bench like Jason Terry or Ben Gordon. It's just unfortunate we don't have two starters that are guards and better than him.

Really? Comparing Foye to Ben Gordon (who is a starter) is a pretty big insult to Gordon. Are you saying the two are on par?

I watch both teams, and I'm sorry John, but Gordon is WAY better than Foye. It's not even close.

Good lord, no pun intended. Ok, deep breath, I just deleted my initial response because it wasn't nice. Gordon and Terry both excel as a 6th man, combo guards off the bench. Yeah Gordon started 75 of 82 games this year, but prior to this year he only started 40% of their games. Ideally a team isn't starting a 6'3" SG who is too small to defend most shooting guards and too slow to stay in front of the elite PGs, sounds a lot like Foye, doesn't it?

I never compared the two, clearly Gordon is better, but the role he's normally played, or the role that would be ideal for him, is the role I'd like to see Foye in; a 6th man combo guard off the bench.

Try some reading comprehension.

^
could you make it a snickerdoodle?

Finally. The Wolves board has officially talked about everything now.

"Snickerdoodle" was the only word in the dictionary I had not crossed off, as I scientifically monitor this board for data.

Sweet, does that mean we beat the internet?

Try some reading comprehension? Don't appreciate the insult. Your original post didn't communicate that in any effective way, and frankly I don't think Gordon is a 6th man at all, nor does the current Bulls coaching staff, nor did Scott Skiles when the Bulls were going on their best winning run in many years. He's the Bulls best player. You don't bring your best player off the bench. His defense is adequate. Not great by any means, but average. He is undersized but very strong. The BG will get posted up scenario pretty much never happens.

Foye should be a 6th man because frankly he doesn't have the talent to be a quality starter. I don't make ignorant assumptions about him solely because of his size.

[Twizman]

Undersized shooting are ugh.

The only long-term starters I can think of in recent history are Wade and Cuttino Mobley.

[john2jer]

Derrick Rose might have something to say about who Chicago's best player is. Gordon's a ball pounder.

[Esohny]

Yeah, I don't even think Gordon would try to argue that he was the best player on that team, and he thinks he's worth more than $10 million a year.

[yojimbo]

Maybe my memory's faulty after so long, but Foye reminds me of the Microwave, Vinnie Johnson. Short, strong, gifted at getting his own shot and putting the ball in the hole - not as gifted at everything else. He & Gordon are both best as 6th men.

[LordBaldric]

Some of you guys are clueless. Look up some Bulls Blogs. Most of them have Gordon as the season MPV, and for good reason.

But I guess when you are fixated on an epicly bad NBA franchise, your brain goes to mush somewhat.

As far as Rose vs Gordon goes, one would expect an adult to know the difference between talent vs production.

[GopherIt!]

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[GopherIt!]

snickerdoodle was the last word on the list??? Well you've been around here longer than me so I guess I'll have to take your word for it. But I'm sorely bummed that I missed the usage of the following words/phrases:

zygote
ort
assmosis
Solid Snake
King Vitaman
meat helmets
masticate
****
Jiggly Puff
confusticated
Rancho Cucamonga
uvula
wenis
turophile
kumquat
Borvo the Hutt
Piggly Wiggly

and

shorn scrotum

[john2jer]

Some of you guys are clueless. Look up some Bulls Blogs. Most of them have Gordon as the season MPV, and for good reason.

But I guess when you are fixated on an epicly bad NBA franchise, your brain goes to mush somewhat.

As far as Rose vs Gordon goes, one would expect an adult to know the difference between talent vs production.

Yeah, you'd think. Let us know when you figure that out.

[revprodeji]

I have used masticate before.

[TrentTuckerForever]

... and I wish I could change my username to Rancho Cucomonga.

Baldric, I live in Chicago so I see plenty of Bulls basketball and as a neutral observer, I'd have to say that were three reasons the Bulls improved this year:

1. Rose.
2. Improved play from Noah and Ty Thomas.
3a. The deal for Miller and Salmons, which forced
3b. ...Vinny to shorten the rotation and quit jerking guys' minutes around

Did Gordon really play any different this year than in years past? He shoots you out of as many games as he shoot you into, and while he's certainly exciting, if he's your starting 2 Guard you're not a championship contender. You're first round fodder.

From a pure basketball standpoint (not as a Wolves fan) I'd love to see the Bulls keep everyone they've got and figure out a way to incorporate Deng into the starting lineup. If they could bring both Hinrich and Gordon off the bench their top eight would be:

Deng
Thomas
Noah
Salmons
Rose
Gordon
Hinrich
Miller

...not bad. The Bulls made the Celts series exciting, and it was great for their young guys to get playoff experience (trust me, I wish the Woofies were there.) BUT Bulls fans shouldn't take it too far - they've got to have another All-Star level player next to Rose going forward (both Deng and Thomas have that potential.) IMO Gordon won't be that guy. He is who he is - Gordon is Vinnie Johnson (Foye is a poor imitation), and if the Bulls want to win titles they'll put him in that 6th man role.