TIMBERWOLVES 2009 DRAFT THREAD

[Klomp]

[hijacktheparade]

I see that they changed the collars.

[Frozen3161]

There is not an accent worse in the world than a New York/ Jersey accent on a woman.

What about Boston?

[Basti]

I see that they changed the collars.

nah I guess these are "only" the replica ones.

[younggunsmn]

one very important thing no one has mentioned is that the sooner rubio comes over, the sooner he gets to his first max contract. every year he stays in europe may cost him 13-14 million dollars in career earnings. even if he only makes 1.5 million per year the first 2 years after his buyout payment, he is a year closer to the big bucks. 1.5 million is 15 times what he would make in spain this coming year, not to mention endorsements.

if yi and the chinese govt could not get him to avoid milwaukee, rubio is not going to new york because some sweaty old a-hole east coast sportswriters pleasure themselves thinking about it.

[Frozen3161]

even if he only makes 1.5 million per year the first 2 years after his buyout payment, he is a year closer to the big bucks. 1.5 million is 15 times what he would make in spain this coming year, not to mention endorsements.

On another note, it was talked aobut that Rubio might pay his bailout with 2 million a year for a few years. Which would leave him with about 1.2 million a year to spend as he wishes until the buyout is paid.

Which doesn't sound too bad.

[Esohny]

even if he only makes 1.5 million per year the first 2 years after his buyout payment, he is a year closer to the big bucks. 1.5 million is 15 times what he would make in spain this coming year, not to mention endorsements.

On another note, it was talked aobut that Rubio might pay his bailout with 2 million a year for a few years. Which would leave him with about 1.2 million a year to spend as he wishes until the buyout is paid.

Which doesn't sound too bad.

Not counting endorsements, which he will have plenty of.

[Frozen3161]

From Wikipedia, his nicknames are "La Pistola", and "The Rolling Earthquake".

[The Skyhook]

Please tell me wtf the point of drafting Rubio and Flynn was if he doesn't get traded. They drafted Flynn because he was afraid Rubio would go to Spain. Why bother to draft him then if you won't trade him and you knew he might walk on you. Lets say Rubio goes to Spain for a year or two. That allows Flynn to develop as the starting PG in the T'wolves system. Then in a year or two Rubio shows up asking for play time and my guess is the T'wolves slam the door in his face because he walked on them and Flynn deservingly earned his spot and play time. I think the T'wolves are better off trading Rubio or Flynn to a team for a player that fills the T'wolves need. If you disagree with me then please tell me wtf the point of drafting Rubio and Flynn was. It seems like they won't be able to develop properly if both stick around. They should stick with one and let him be the best player he can be.

[Krapinsky]

Please tell me wtf the point of drafting Rubio and Flynn was if he doesn't get traded. They drafted Flynn because he was afraid Rubio would go to Spain. Why bother to draft him then if you won't trade him and you knew he might walk on you. Lets say Rubio goes to Spain for a year or two. That allows Flynn to develop as the starting PG in the T'wolves system. Then in a year or two Rubio shows up asking for play time and my guess is the T'wolves slam the door in his face because he walked on them and Flynn deservingly earned his spot and play time. I think the T'wolves are better off trading Rubio or Flynn to a team for a player that fills the T'wolves need. If you disagree with me then please tell me wtf the point of drafting Rubio and Flynn was. It seems like they won't be able to develop properly if both stick around. They should stick with one and let him be the best player he can be.

What were are other options?

Rubio was the consensus 2nd best player in the draft.

After Flynn there was:

1. Curry -- like Flynn can't guard 2's, but probably can't guard 1's either, and didn't out with us
2. Hill -- another PF; we already have two of those, as opposed to 1 pg; not an option at all
3. Derozan -- dodged workout with the wolves, lots of people think he has big time bust potential (not me)

So what exactly were we supposed to do? We're not going to compete next year anyway. See: jefferson/brewer coming off ACL tears; Western Conference is 10 playoff teams deep

We did the only thing we could do. We drafted the 2 best players available. We'll development them, and then we'll trade one of them when we've increased their value.

[LOBO 7]

Alright, here's my thoughts on....everything.
Last night was a roller coaster ride. I went from
ecstatic (Rubio at 5??!!) to
confused (Flynn at 6??) to
worried (are we gonna trade Rubio??) to
pissed (we're gonna f#%king trade Rubio...) to
reassured (we're gonna trade Flynn...) to
confused (we're gonna keep them both??)
etc.

Then, late last night I convinced myself that I really like Flynn (I always did, just didn't like the fit) and that the 2 could co-exist. I mean, its not like they are going to each play 48 minutes. Lets say they each played 29 minutes, or 58 total. That would be 48 total at PG, and maybe we could get away with Rubio guarding an SG for 10 minutes a game. It's not like we're in win-now mode, and if they each got 29 minutes it should be enough to keep them both happy while assessing what we've got. So, I went to bed thinking that.

Then, today Ricky skipped the press conference, Flynn went even further in winning everyone over (myself included) and more rumors started swirling about Rubio staying in Spain for a year or 2, then coming over, improved and more mature. Having warmed on Flynn, I was also ok with this. Now more trade rumors start swirling and I really don't know what to think. Rubio was THE coveted piece in this draft for many many people, and I don't think Kahn is dumb enough to trade him unless the price is right. Nobody has the leverage besides Kahn. We are fine with waiting, and that is what we need to do. Rushing into a horrible trade (Nate Robinson and David Lee? Are you kidding me? Duplicates of Flynn and Love?) would be idiotic, and I really don't think Kahn is an idiot. So, after feeling ecstatic, confused, pissed, confused, reassured, and confused again, now I'm just feeling......
patient.
I hope Kahn feels the same way.

[Esohny]

Alright, here's my thoughts on....everything.
Last night was a roller coaster ride. I went from
ecstatic (Rubio at 5??!!) to
confused (Flynn at 6??) to
worried (are we gonna trade Rubio??) to
pissed (we're gonna f#%king trade Rubio...) to
reassured (we're gonna trade Flynn...) to
confused (we're gonna keep them both??)
etc.

Then, late last night I convinced myself that I really like Flynn (I always did, just didn't like the fit) and that the 2 could co-exist. I mean, its not like they are going to each play 48 minutes. Lets say they each played 29 minutes, or 58 total. That would be 48 total at PG, and maybe we could get away with Rubio guarding an SG for 10 minutes a game. It's not like we're in win-now mode, and if they each got 29 minutes it should be enough to keep them both happy while assessing what we've got. So, I went to bed thinking that.

Then, today Ricky skipped the press conference, Flynn went even further in winning everyone over (myself included) and more rumors started swirling about Rubio staying in Spain for a year or 2, then coming over, improved and more mature. Having warmed on Flynn, I was also ok with this. Now more trade rumors start swirling and I really don't know what to think. Rubio was THE coveted piece in this draft for many many people, and I don't think Kahn is dumb enough to trade him unless the price is right. Nobody has the leverage besides Kahn. We are fine with waiting, and that is what we need to do. Rushing into a horrible trade (Nate Robinson and David Lee? Are you kidding me? Duplicates of Flynn and Love?) would be idiotic, and I really don't think Kahn is an idiot. So, after feeling ecstatic, confused, pissed, confused, reassured, and confused again, now I'm just feeling......
patient.
I hope Kahn feels the same way.

More like lame versions of Flynn and Love.

[collin_k41]

I wouldn't be worried LOBO. I'm really pretty sure we aren't going to trade Rubio. Most of the trade rumors are bogus and are based on the fact that the Wolves HAVE to trade Rubio because what are you going to do with two PGs. I'm sure teams are interested and we are listening but we ARE NOT going to give Rubio away. Kahn is no fool. After the presser today I can see how Flynn and Rubio fit defensively. But I think someone is going to have to change their style of dominating the ball for it to work offensively. Even then, they both need to learn to score at a higher rate but I can still see it working. Once Rubio has a couple years on him and is 6'5" to 6'6" with some muscle he will be guarding the SGs and Flynn the PGs. It was said that Flynn can guard people taller him very well and that you couldn't see his man-on-man defensive skills at syracuse because of the 2-3 zone they ran. I think/hope we keep them both and see what happens.

[younggunsmn]

khan got great value at nearly every pick.

5 - rubio - top 2 talent
6 - flynn - pure pg , top6-7 player seriously considered at 4
18 - bobs pick protected 12, 10, 8, 3, 0 - likely a lottery pick for 18 in a weak draft
28 - wayne ellington - 6'5 pure SG, final 4 mvp, good outside shooter.
45 - traded calathes for 2010 2nd (lesser of chi and portland), likely to be early 50's, and cash
not great value here unfortunately, but you never know 53 next year could be better than 45 this year.
47 - Norel - at least he knows rubio, his draft vid on espn looked horrible.

[cool_guy]

Freakin Rubio guy doesn't want to play here. His parents is more against than he is actually. They are creating all those dramas now that he would stay in europe, bla bla to buy some time to think how to get rid of wolves. If Knicks drafted him, he, his mom, and dad will pack the bag today and land to NYC. Didn't the guy say he will play free if he has to. What happen to that.

Man I started hating this guy and his family. Another draft went lost cause. I don't have much faith on Flynn. We had similar hope with Foye. Flynn and Curry will be situation like Roy and Foye. Write it down.

Look for my post when I said it was a terrible mistake to take Foye over Roy. I was screaming.

Now make a note about this flynn situation and let me know two years later.