WAS - MIN

[shrink]

Here's a simple trade, after Atkins 60 days are up and he can be combined in trade:

WAS gets Atkins + Songalia
MIN gets Mike James + $1.54 mil TPE

Songalia $4,526,000$ 4,818,000
C Atkins $3,480,000 ($0.78 mil guaranteed)

James: $6,466,600

Why for WAS: Wizards are over the lux. If they add Atkins and waive him, they save $2.7 mil, which doubled, is a savings of $5.4 mil, and more than Songalia's second year. Moreover, Songalia has been a useful back-up for them and knows the system, so he can help their play-off run for the next two years more than Mike James would for this year. Right now, the Wizards potentially have over $25 mil in expiring contracts this year, and could potentially avoid the lux with Songalia, even re-signing Haywood.

Why for MIN: The $2.7 mil savings this year and use of Songalia is worth less to us than having nothing but the cap savings in 2010.

*Note: Songalia can be traded back to WAS without the one-year wait, because the trade took place in late June, and the "NBA Season" runs from July 1-June 30, effectively making the trade "last year."

[Klomp]

I think we could get more for Songaila somewhere, but maybe not.

[Worm Guts]

I wouldn't be looking for something for Songaila, I just want to get his salary off the books.

[Foye]

Nice deal as long as Mike James never wears a timberwolves uniform in a regular season game again

[shrink]

Nice deal as long as Mike James never wears a timberwolves uniform in a regular season game again ;)

My thoughts exactly.

Agreeing to waive him might provide additional incentive to WAS, because he actually wasn't horrible for them last year.

[shrink]

The other WAS-MIN deal I was kicking around was:

Songalia + Atkins for Stevenson + Blatche

Songalia $4,526,000$ 4,818,000
C Atkins $3,480,000

Stevenson $3,883,929 $4,151,786
Blatche $3,000,000 $3,260,331 $3,520,661


More financial obligation, but I kind of like Blatche. Maybe before Hollins?

[the_bruce]

like the first deal. not the 2nd.

Wonder if they'd entertain an addition of critt for brown swap to save more money ~1.4m after lux. Saving them a total of 6.8m after lux tax.

[shrink]

like the first deal. not the 2nd.

Wonder if they'd entertain an addition of critt for brown swap to save more money ~1.4m after lux. Saving them a total of 6.8m after lux tax.

I like that idea a lot. Arenas and Foye is all they really need for PG, so a cheaper third-stringer to save cap money makes a lot of sense.

[Marc]

I don't get why you had to start 3 different threads for 3 different trades ideas why you could post them all in one thread...

[skorff26]

I think the trade, especially if James is willing to accept 4.5 million or so for a buyout.

[shrink]

I don't get why you had to start 3 different threads for 3 different trades ideas why you could post them all in one thread...

We don't have a trade thread, each trade proposal has its own thread so we don't cross topics.

In fact, I combined two WAS-MIN trades in this thread, since they are so very similar.

The Love trade and Utah trade were ideas I thought people might find interesting and discussion-worthy.

[nate33]

Here's a simple trade, after Atkins 60 days are up and he can be combined in trade:

WAS gets Atkins + Songalia
MIN gets Mike James + $1.54 mil TPE

Songalia $4,526,000$ 4,818,000
C Atkins $3,480,000 ($0.78 mil guaranteed)

James: $6,466,600

Why for WAS: Wizards are over the lux. If they add Atkins and waive him, they save $2.7 mil, which doubled, is a savings of $5.4 mil, and more than Songalia's second year. Moreover, Songalia has been a useful back-up for them and knows the system, so he can help their play-off run for the next two years more than Mike James would for this year. Right now, the Wizards potentially have over $25 mil in expiring contracts this year, and could potentially avoid the lux with Songalia, even re-signing Haywood.

Why for MIN: The $2.7 mil savings this year and use of Songalia is worth less to us than having nothing but the cap savings in 2010.

*Note: Songalia can be traded back to WAS without the one-year wait, because the trade took place in late June, and the "NBA Season" runs from July 1-June 30, effectively making the trade "last year."

I'm I missing something?

The Wizards dump James' $6.4M salary but then add Songaila's $4.53M salary plus the $0.78M buyout. The net savings is just $1.1M. Double it, and it saves them just $2.2M. That seems like a pretty gawdawful deal for Washington once you account for them owing $9M for Songaila next year (after factoring the luxtax).

That's an easy no from Washington. You can also forget about the Wizards dumping Blatche to save cap space. That's not gonna happen either.