The Triangle

[invno1]

It's really going to be interesting to see how long Rambis can develop this crew into the the triangle, they really struggled with it with the Bulls. When Rambis just let them go, the game was more entertaining. It is really difficult to grasp and develop the spacing and movement. Crazy ting is it almost seems to go against the strengths of Timberwolves studs. Flynn wants to run and the triangle asks him to be a shooter. Stacy King the Bulls announcer was really breaking it down last night, he did a great job of of trying to teach how it works, Timberwolves are a running crew, triangle seems to be more of a 1/2 court game. More will be revealed.

[Devilzsidewalk]

we need to do both; as far as some half court sets, it's hard to argue against the success the triangle has seen.

[funkatron101]

Well, even the Lakers don't use the triangle offense exclusively. So, there will definitely be situations that call for both.

Here is one example that I think the Wolves can effectively do. Now I pictured Sessions taking Fisher's role and Flynn taking Kobe's role in this scenario. Flynn may not yet gain enough respect to draw the double team, but if he continues to show that he can drive to the basket, I can certainly see Al or Love being completely open to finish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7muOtu2N9Og

[Winter Wonder]

There were a couple of offensive series where the Wolves spread out the floor and ran a high screen and flare with Cardinal and Sessions, both base line 3 point spots filled and on wing, and the spacing and, well it looked quite nice and really gave Ramon room to work. He ended up drawing a foul going to the basket, but both the flare and ball side corner were open as well. With the speed and strength of our PG's and shooting of our PF's, we should run more pick and pop or pick and roll basketball... I saw some, I hope to see much more.

[IcemanMN]

Exactly. That was the part of last night's game that really puzzled me. Put the pick and roll back into the dang offense.

[Devilzsidewalk]

Exactly. That was the part of last night's game that really puzzled me. Put the pick and roll back into the dang offense.

they will once the game matters, but that stuff is so automatic I don't think the feel the need to practice it; they want to get some basic sets in. Probably anyways, that'd be my theory.

[Worm Guts]

If you're going to work through the kinks of installing a new offense, the preseason is the time. They had an article in the Trib yesterday about how Rambis is trying to force Flynn to work on other things. He's a good pick and roll player but he needs to get better at running the offense.

[Tekkenlaw]

I didn't know the Wolves were actually going to run the triangle, they don't really have the personnel for it outside of Love who is perfect.

[revprodeji]

I cannot site this, but they are not allowed to run P/R-P/P in the games. They are working on other plays that they are struggling with. We know Flynn/Love can run the P/R-P/P and we know Flynn can slash. So why waste precious practice time doing those things? Work on what needs working on. It is the bloody pre-season.

Triangle does not need certain personal. Jackson's version of the triangle needs certain people. Tex Winter's triple post is different. jackson modified it. Just as Rambis will also.

Running the triangle does not mean you run it everytime. I coach and I have a 4-out 1 in swing as our basic play, but we also use the Hawk P/r, hawk 2p/r, Hawk post and a spider.

Give them time.

[Devilzsidewalk]

If you don't cite your sources, then how are we supposed to add it to Wikipedia?

[revprodeji]

It was not a **source** it was something I read. I just cannot remember where.

[GopherIt!]

if it's not on Wikipedia I won't believe it.

[jade_hippo]

i agree with rev, we aren't running anything we plan on featuring on a nightly basis. this is the time to work on just being on the court together and working kinks out of things for the season.

also the only way i see a triangle type offense being implimented full time is if Jefferson goes down again or relapses and Flynn is a complete bust. a triangle featuring Sessions, Gomes, Love supported with Cardinal, Ellington, and Hollins actually would have me salavating. could hide a lot of their deficiencies in that and make up for a real lack of talent in general with some well run sets.

[TDot_nomad]

I'm intrigued to find out if the TWolves have the personnel to successfully run Rambis' version of the Triangle. I just don't see Flynn and Sessions as consistent enough outside shooters yet; Flynn I think will eventually get there. I think Rambis has a good approach and hopefully a lot of kinks will get worked out in pre-season.

On a different note:
From the quotes I've read, it seems that Rambis is willing to give up on the "two point guard lineup". I find this extremely amusing. From an outside perspective I am not a fan of Kahn; and although I'm a huge Jonny Flynn fan I would have fun watching the "two point guard" idea fail in Minnesota - does Kahn really believe that two guys 6'2" and shorter can successfully guard nba backcourts? Does Kahn realize that defense wins championships?

[Worm Guts]

On a different note:
From the quotes I've read, it seems that Rambis is willing to give up on the "two point guard lineup". I find this extremely amusing. From an outside perspective I am not a fan of Kahn; and although I'm a huge Jonny Flynn fan I would have fun watching the "two point guard" idea fail in Minnesota - does Kahn really believe that two guys 6'2" and shorter can successfully guard nba backcourts? Does Kahn realize that defense wins championships?

Come on, Kahn's goal is obviously talent accumulation at this point.

[john2jer]

Sessions is 6'3" and the hate that Kahn draws for absolutely no reason is hilarious. Why is TDot so butt hurt?

[revprodeji]

Many teams go "small" for 10-15 min a game with 1 mobile post, 1 SF, 1 SG and 1 pg. Go uptempo for a little while. This is not a revolutionary idea.

[Winter Wonder]

First, whole-heartedly believe in and agree with working on things that need work on in pre-season practices/scrimmages/games or whatever you want to call them. They assuredly need the work and they are going to need a number of different offensive sets in order to best utilize their talent and to attack favorable match-ups or different defensive schemes. So, again, no problem with them working the traingle and whatever else they are going to, I just liked what I saw with the PnR and PnP.

As for the big deal everyone is making about the two PG thing, people are aware we are talking about different players I hope. If I am not mistaken, Rubio does have a few inches on the other PG's and would create a little bit of a different dynamic on the floor both offensively and defensively, right? I don't see Flynn and Sessions having the potential that Flynn or Sessions would have with Rubio. Granted, I am not sold on that either, but this is not the same scenario as presented on draft night and shouldn't be taken as such blasphemy or whatever from what Kahn may have originally invisioned. It seems to me, both Flynn and Sessions have more similar game styles and that could be why it wouldn't work as well as it would if one of them brought something different to the floor. Either way, I don't think this is a tragedy or major deal as the media or other teams' fans seem to think it may be.