Marvin Williams

[Krapinsky]

And yet he still starts and plays 30 minutes on a team whos most likely going to the ECF... weird... oh wait, maybe they have a well-balanced team who rely on others to do the scoring and Williams has a role that is below his talent level yet he does it anyway because he likes winning? Maybe that too?

Im not gonna argue this out with you though anymore. Your a stat junkie and I'm a stat critque, its never a good mix.

Kind of like Ariza on the Lakers last year?

[Krapinsky]

And yet he still starts and plays 30 minutes on a team whos most likely going to the ECF... weird... oh wait, maybe they have a well-balanced team who rely on others to do the scoring and Williams has a role that is below his talent level yet he does it anyway because he likes winning? Maybe that too?

Im not gonna argue this out with you though anymore. Your a stat junkie and I'm a stat critque, its never a good mix.

Derek Fisher starts on a better team.

[Vindicater]

And yet he still starts and plays 30 minutes on a team whos most likely going to the ECF... weird... oh wait, maybe they have a well-balanced team who rely on others to do the scoring and Williams has a role that is below his talent level yet he does it anyway because he likes winning? Maybe that too?

Im not gonna argue this out with you though anymore. Your a stat junkie and I'm a stat critque, its never a good mix.

Kind of like Ariza on the Lakers last year?

Ariza is also better than Gomes.

[Vindicater]

And yet he still starts and plays 30 minutes on a team whos most likely going to the ECF... weird... oh wait, maybe they have a well-balanced team who rely on others to do the scoring and Williams has a role that is below his talent level yet he does it anyway because he likes winning? Maybe that too?

Im not gonna argue this out with you though anymore. Your a stat junkie and I'm a stat critque, its never a good mix.

Derek Fisher starts on a better team.

Derek Fisher is a point guard so does not matter in this context. Even if he did, I dont find it a good argument because he starts for leadership and trust reasons. Nothing to do with his play.

[Krapinsky]

And yet he still starts and plays 30 minutes on a team whos most likely going to the ECF... weird... oh wait, maybe they have a well-balanced team who rely on others to do the scoring and Williams has a role that is below his talent level yet he does it anyway because he likes winning? Maybe that too?

Im not gonna argue this out with you though anymore. Your a stat junkie and I'm a stat critque, its never a good mix.

Kind of like Ariza on the Lakers last year?

Ariza is also better than Gomes.

The point is to use Ariza as a comparison to Williams. Ariza was good on a championship Laker team. He was much more efficient. He went to a worse team where his usage went way up and look how inefficient he got. Here, you are arguing Williams the opposite would apply to Williams if he went from a good Hawks team to a poor MN team. So you see it doesn't translate that a players stats are worse just because he is surrounded by better players. That argument would work for volume stats but would not explain his poor efficiency.

[Vindicater]

Marvin Williams has a more poished offensive game than Ariza and would have plays drawn for him here whereas Ariza has been bad offensivly because hes tryed to force bad shots.