shrink wrote:Nice post younggunsmn. Sometimes its hard to get through your walls of text, but there is always lots of good stuff in each post.
I've been saying for a long long time that Deng isn't worth his contract. $7.5 seems reasonable, though I don't like to compare salaries to deals over two years, since the market has gone down so quickly. I don't know if I feel like the other assets add up enough, though I think that 2012 CHA pick, with the same protections as ours, could be pretty good down the road withthe Bobs older team.
Let me ask this. Suppose we said there''s only one deal we'd do to turn Deng into cap space:
Deng + NOAH for cap space + Hollins
Noah gets paid in 2011. CHI fans love Noah, but if this was on the table, do we do the deal then?
Thanks Shrink. I always appreciate your lust for cap room. But I can't apologize for the walls of text, that's just how I roll.
That bobs pick could be nice, but not that nice. If they offered Noah, even with deng, we would have to do it, but that's an insane offer, they'd never do that.
One alternative I've advocated is Kirk Hinrich + bobs pick + future bulls pick for Ryan Hollins, if we can't find use for our cap room. Much more palatable for us. Hinrich only has 2 years left ($9,000,000 and $8,000,000) and could be dealt for an expiring to the right team. If we can deal him for an expiring, it works out to about 6.67 million of cap space for 2 future firsts. Keep in mind if they add 2 superstars, the value of CHI future picks will drop quite a bit.
Personally I'm kind of getting the feeling that this year's offseason is going to make last year's seem downright dull. Kahn and Rambis can't be very happy with the play and/or attitudes of most of these guys, with a few exceptions like sessions, ellington, darko, and maybe brewer. I expect quite a few big moves, Definitely one or both of al/love, possibly flynn too.
I agree the salary market is headed downward for non-superstar level players. There are going to be downright stupid deals like turkoglu and deng signed every year, but they haven't been as widespread the last couple years. Pretty reasonable deals for guys like Lee and Marvin Williams attest to that. There is a big fight coming in the next CBA. When 20 teams lose a total of 400 million, something has to change. I think we've seen a highwater mark in the salary cap, at least for 5 years or so.