Offseason targets

[cpfsf]

Didn't Gay reject a 5/50 deal?

Now I'm reading conflicting reports ><

There are so many possibilities for this summer that it will drive us crazy.

I actually worry that there is nothing we could do that would satisfy the fanbase because we have hyped it up so bad.

If we want Bosh we need to prove to him that he will not need to play the center spot. I think that is key. It would be a sign/trade deal and we could give up a more attractive offer then Houston could, but if you are Bosh would you rather play with Yao/martin/etc near your hometown or in MN?

It would be interesting if we could get Bosh to commit for a S/t of Love and then we could put all of our assets into getting a SF with legit range (Granger for Jefferson+the Char pick or flynn?)

Rubio/Turner/Granger/Bosh/Darko

fan base?

I don't think Houston can offer too much. It would be a matchup of quality versus quantity. I heard that the Raptors like Jordan Hill though. Don't tell that to Walsh.

[shangrila]

It matters more that Bosh would want to come to the team, not what they'd offer in the S&T

[cpfsf]

It matters more that Bosh would want to come to the team, not what they'd offer in the S&T

Yup, not even worth mentioning if we don't get a top 2 pick.

This thread doesn't have to be limited to Conley, Bosh, Splitter, and Afro Thunder. I'm also looking at Vazquez (Rubio's teammate) and guys who are unrestricted like Carney, Korver, Miller, and Devin Brown. Doubt MM wants to come back here, but maybe Turner and Bosh can change his mind.

[shangrila]

It matters more that Bosh would want to come to the team, not what they'd offer in the S&T

Yup, not even worth mentioning if we don't get a top 2 pick.

This thread doesn't have to be limited to Conley, Bosh, Splitter, and Afro Thunder. I'm also looking at Vazquez (Rubio's teammate) and guys who are unrestricted like Carney, Korver, Miller, and Devin Brown. Doubt MM wants to come back here, but maybe Turner and Bosh can change his mind.

I don't see why Miller wouldn't want to come back. If you're talking about being traded, they all know it's a business and the team did trade him to a team that was meant to be a top 4 in the East.

The problem is balancing who should be free agent targets and what needs are going to be filled in the draft, so this will be a lot easier after the draft. For example, if Jefferson or Love are traded and the team doesn't get another big, Tyrus Thomas could fill a need. Or if they don't pick up a shooter, Miller could help.

So I guess if I had to pick targets, I'd be looking at whatever needs weren't filled in the draft and then weigh how hard it would be to get each guy against their talent and fit on the team. For now, I'd say my list of targets would be:

Michael Beasley
Marvin Williams
Mike Miller
Tony Allen
Tyrus Thomas
Luol Deng
Travis Outlaw
Josh Childress
Tiago Splitter/Fran Vasquez
Rudy Fernandez
Bill Walker
CDR
Jannero Pargo
Udonis Haslem
Randy Foye
Wes Matthews
Keyon Dooling

There's more, but those are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. So it's a big list, but would get narrowed down after the draft.

[Worm Guts]

I don't see why Miller wouldn't want to come back.

Who knows how he really feels, but I thought he looked miserable during his season with us.

[shangrila]

I don't see why Miller wouldn't want to come back.

Who knows how he really feels, but I thought he looked miserable during his season with us.

Everyone looks miserable when you struggle to win 20 games.

[jballer_13]

Similar to the Bosh idea... What would you guys give up for an extended Amar'e or in a s&t (if he opts out)? Do you even want him? He's played like a beast this year and more importantly, played in all 82 games.

[shangrila]

Similar to the Bosh idea... What would you guys give up for an extended Amar'e or in a s&t (if he opts out)? Do you even want him? He's played like a beast this year and more importantly, played in all 82 games.

Probably not. The difference between him and Bosh is Bosh is a much better passer, which fits more into the offensive system the team is trying to create. Also, Bosh is a younger so there's a longer window of opportunity then with Amare.

[Krapinsky]

Similar to the Bosh idea... What would you guys give up for an extended Amar'e or in a s&t (if he opts out)? Do you even want him? He's played like a beast this year and more importantly, played in all 82 games.

Probably not. The difference between him and Bosh is Bosh is a much better passer, which fits more into the offensive system the team is trying to create. Also, Bosh is a younger so there's a longer window of opportunity then with Amare.

He's not comparing Bosh to Amare -- just the sign and trade factor.

[cpfsf]

I don't see why Miller wouldn't want to come back. If you're talking about being traded, they all know it's a business and the team did trade him to a team that was meant to be a top 4 in the East.

A few weeks ago, Miller said, "I have some loyalties to the Wizards," to which he followed that up with, "They traded for me and Randy Foye, gave up a high draft pick and that's not easy to do, especially in this day and age when teams are going young. You understand what they did for us, so my loyalties are here for sure, but after that, we'll have to see what comes to the plate." I'm under the impression that Miller will stay as long as he's offered market value, but the decision is entirely up to him. A 15 win team that traded me earlier wouldn't be at the top of my list unless they suddenly became talented and offered me a nice salary.

I don't think I have ever heard of anyone vouch for Rodney Carney. If I remember correctly, Kahn narrowed it down to Carney or Pavlovic. He was the fish that got away.

Similar to the Bosh idea... What would you guys give up for an extended Amar'e or in a s&t (if he opts out)? Do you even want him? He's played like a beast this year and more importantly, played in all 82 games.

I'm assuming Al Jefferson would have to be traded straight up for this to work (or else this will probably be a very large trade involving other teams). I should also note that I'm opposed to adding any picks. I believe he could be more effective on offense than Al Jefferson, but both will be bad defensively as usual. Love his shooting and I believe would be a good fit in the triangle. The issue I have is that he doesn't seem to be a huge upgrade for a guy who is older and will be more expensive. I wouldn't rule it out, but I would see if a Bosh S&T was possible first.

[shangrila]

Similar to the Bosh idea... What would you guys give up for an extended Amar'e or in a s&t (if he opts out)? Do you even want him? He's played like a beast this year and more importantly, played in all 82 games.

Probably not. The difference between him and Bosh is Bosh is a much better passer, which fits more into the offensive system the team is trying to create. Also, Bosh is a younger so there's a longer window of opportunity then with Amare.

He's not comparing Bosh to Amare -- just the sign and trade factor.

I just used that comparison to show why the team wouldn't want Amare and why, apart from being a star, the team would be interested in Bosh.

[cpfsf]

I think this will be my my last post of candidates. We pretty much summed up everybody (I stopped myself earlier from listing Salmons).


Earl Barron (Knicks center) in 7 games with 33.1 MPG
11.7 PPG 11 RPG 1.1 APG
.441 FG% .759 FT%
.6 SPG .6 BPG

Anthony Tolliver (Warriors power forward) in 31 MPG
11.7 PPG 7 RPG 1.9 APG
.430 FG% .769 FT% .329 3P%
.7 SPG .7 BPG

Anthony Morrow in 29.2 MPG
13 PPG 3.8 RPG 1.5 APG
.468 FG% .456 3P% .886 FT%
.94 SPG .23 BPG

Morrow should be the most realistic (of these 3) because GSW also has Azuibuike, Williams, Watson, Curry, Maggette, and Ellis. Brandon Wright probably will be for next season, so that will have some influence on the roster. I think GSW will have their hands tied just like Atlanta is with Childress (hint hint). I would sign Barron if he was cheap. Hollins just isn't doing it for me.