trade with Philadelphia and more

[Foye]

MIN gives: #4pick+Love
MIN gets: #2 (Evan Turner) + #21st pick+Thaddeus Young + Jason Smith

OKC gives: James Harden + #21
OKC gets: Kevin Love


PHI gives: #2 pick+Thaddeus Young+Jason Smith
PHI gets: #4 + James Harden

I'd still do this one.

Me, too.

[NewWolvesOrder]

MIN gives: #4pick+Love
MIN gets: #2 (Evan Turner) + #21st pick+Thaddeus Young + Jason Smith

OKC gives: James Harden + #21
OKC gets: Kevin Love


PHI gives: #2 pick+Thaddeus Young+Jason Smith
PHI gets: #4 + James Harden

I'd still do this one.

Me, too.

Love that trade even without OKC pick.

[Esohny]

It's better.

[shrink]

I don't think it is. Harden doesn't have the value to get Kevin Love alone.

Agree -- OKC certainly would be cut out.

I don't think I'd offer all that for the #2, but its an interesting trade

[karch34]

Can't quote a post from work, but

MIN gets: #2 (Evan Turner) + #21st pick+Thaddeus Young + Jason Smith
OKC gets: Kevin Love
PHI gets: #4 + James Harden

looks pretty fair all around. I'd do it.

[ckchen]

Can't quote a post from work, but

MIN gets: #2 (Evan Turner) + #21st pick+Thaddeus Young + Jason Smith
OKC gets: Kevin Love
PHI gets: #4 + James Harden

looks pretty fair all around. I'd do it.

Not really sure how it seems fair for Philly. Why would Philly trade down just to turn Thad Young/Jason Smith for James Harden? Philly doesn't really get any salary relief at all, and it's debatable that Thad Young by himself isn't already worth more than James Harden.

The only reason Philadelphia will trade the #2 pick is to rid themselves of salary, primarily Brand. Dalembert is a FA at the end of this year and if anything, could actually be considered an asset as a huge expiring contract. Packaging Dalembert doesn't make sense because they'll get salary cap relief by just letting him expire. Unless Brand gets moved in the deal (or the slim chance of maybe Iguodala instead) - there's really no reason to trade the #2.

[76ciology]

Can't quote a post from work, but

MIN gets: #2 (Evan Turner) + #21st pick+Thaddeus Young + Jason Smith
OKC gets: Kevin Love
PHI gets: #4 + James Harden

looks pretty fair all around. I'd do it.

Not really sure how it seems fair for Philly. Why would Philly trade down just to turn Thad Young/Jason Smith for James Harden? Philly doesn't really get any salary relief at all, and it's debatable that Thad Young by himself isn't already worth more than James Harden.

The only reason Philadelphia will trade the #2 pick is to rid themselves of salary, primarily Brand. Dalembert is a FA at the end of this year and if anything, could actually be considered an asset as a huge expiring contract. Packaging Dalembert doesn't make sense because they'll get salary cap relief by just letting him expire. Unless Brand gets moved in the deal (or the slim chance of maybe Iguodala instead) - there's really no reason to trade the #2.

What?

People are talking about on who to draft at the 2nd overall pick between Cousins and Turner. 76ers is a team where there is a lot of BIG holes on their roster. The 76ers needs Harden more than Thad Young, believe me.

This trade just gave them, the two BEST player on their team who has all-star potential, on Harden and Cousins. The trade provides them a player that is, arguably, only a notch below Evan Turner in DeMarcus and a player that would really fit better on the 76ers squad in Harden, who is a pretty good shooter from the outside.

Why would the 76ers just need cap relief for the 2nd overall pick? When did you last heard a 2nd overall pick being traded for cap relief? That's ridiculous.

[karch34]

76ciology pretty much mentioned my rationale. From what I know (and I'm not a Philly expert) is that Young and Iggy pretty much are SF and neither are an ideal fit at SG so the idea was a true SG like Harden and a C in Cousins that replaces Dalembert. Understand moving Iggy's salary might be something they'd look at, but not sure what they would get as far as relief and moving Brand's salary would require taking a lot of bad contracts and/or giving up a lot.