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Post#101 » by shangrila » Fri May 21, 2010 10:44 pm

I agree, the team should definitely be using all their 1st rd picks. But I doubt it happens.
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Post#102 » by Krapinsky » Fri May 21, 2010 11:05 pm

I like Jones over Crawford. Seems like his game is tailor made for the NBA.

Interesting from the measurements -- Sanders is taller and longer than Aldrich. I think he's got as much upside as anyone after the top 4.
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Re: Draft Combine 

Post#103 » by AQuintus » Sat May 22, 2010 4:14 am

horaceworthy wrote:ESPN posted a Top 5 no-step vertical list a little before 11:00 AM CST.

Jordan Crawford Xavier 36"
Evan Turner Ohio State 34.5"
John Wall Kentucky 30"
Darington Hobson New Mexico 29"
Xavier Henry Kansas 28.5"


Those seem really low to me. Last year there were 15 guys with no step verts over 30 inches. The year before there were 22. The year before that there were 29.

So, either this is the least athletic draft ever, or ESPN is wrong.
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Post#104 » by Breakdown777 » Sat May 22, 2010 6:14 am

AQuintus wrote:
horaceworthy wrote:ESPN posted a Top 5 no-step vertical list a little before 11:00 AM CST.

Jordan Crawford Xavier 36"
Evan Turner Ohio State 34.5"
John Wall Kentucky 30"
Darington Hobson New Mexico 29"
Xavier Henry Kansas 28.5"


Those seem really low to me. Last year there were 15 guys with no step verts over 30 inches. The year before there were 22. The year before that there were 29.

So, either this is the least athletic draft ever, or ESPN is wrong.


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Post#105 » by LOBO 7 » Sat May 22, 2010 6:41 am

I tend to agree with the philosophy of getting exactly who we want though, because we can't afford to just take chances on a few guys and risk having a bunch of mediocre role players. If we don't trade up for Turner (which I haven't ruled out) I think (or hope) we'll pick Cousins but then trade down with Sacramento for Wesley Johnson plus something (which I think is worth discussing- what could we get along with Johnson from them?) and then if George doesn't fall to us at #16 we can use assets to get him, maybe the #23 but I'd rather use Ellington or Pekovic or Gomes or even Sessions and keep the #23 and get Seraphin or another project big at #23, like Larry Sanders or Solomon Alabi.

If we could get Johnson, George and Seraphin from the draft I would be really happy. Then we would still have cap space and whatever we could get for either Al or Love to work with.

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And that's not taking into account what we could get if we moved either Al or Love, or any free agent signings.

I just think athleticism and shooting should be our main objectives, especially for when Rubio comes over, which is why I really want to get both Johnson and George.
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Post#106 » by IAmTheTruth » Sat May 22, 2010 7:56 am

We can probably get Wes Johnson by trading Al Jeff and keeping Cousins. I, like a lot of people, feel that Cousins can definitely become a better all-around player than Al Jeff and he plays Center.
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Post#107 » by GopherIt! » Sat May 22, 2010 8:14 am

I like Crawford at 32, oh wait :oops:

George or Crawford at 23 is fine.

Jonny/ Ramon
George 23/ Crawford 23
Henry 16/ Brewer
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Post#108 » by shangrila » Sat May 22, 2010 11:40 am

George might not make it to 23, but if he's gone by 16 a Henry and Crawford draft would finish it off nicely. I doubt the team would start 4 rookies though.
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Post#109 » by Foye » Sat May 22, 2010 2:42 pm

GopherIt! wrote:I like Crawford at 32, oh wait :oops:

George or Crawford at 23 is fine.

Jonny/ Ramon
George 23/ Crawford 23
Henry 16/ Brewer
Monroe 7/Love
Cousins 4/Darko


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It doesn't look to bad though if we draft Barnes or Jones next draft.
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Re: Draft Combine 

Post#110 » by horaceworthy » Sat May 22, 2010 6:33 pm

AQuintus wrote:
horaceworthy wrote:ESPN posted a Top 5 no-step vertical list a little before 11:00 AM CST.

Jordan Crawford Xavier 36"
Evan Turner Ohio State 34.5"
John Wall Kentucky 30"
Darington Hobson New Mexico 29"
Xavier Henry Kansas 28.5"


Those seem really low to me. Last year there were 15 guys with no step verts over 30 inches. The year before there were 22. The year before that there were 29.

So, either this is the least athletic draft ever, or ESPN is wrong.

These are the top 5 as of about an hour and a half into a four hour event. Not everyone had been tested. The second group hadn't even started going through basketball drills and I'm fairly certain players from the first group were still being tested in the background when the graphic was displayed.

Only a good sign for Crawford because a 36" no step is pretty ridiculous, something like tied for the 7th highest ever in the DX database (once it gets put in there), for Hobson because the main knock has been he isn't an NBA caliber athlete and a 29" no step is at least decent, and for Turner because it lends more credence to the Roy comparison, at least from a physical tools standpoint.
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Re: Draft Combine 

Post#111 » by shangrila » Sun May 23, 2010 1:22 am

I'm surprised that Henry measured out so bad there. Still want him for the team though.
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Re: Draft Combine 

Post#112 » by AQuintus » Sun May 23, 2010 1:31 am

shangrila wrote:I'm surprised that Henry measured out so bad there. Still want him for the team though.


What's so bad about a SG standing 6'7" with a 6'11" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach? Those are pretty much prototypical measurements for an NBA SG.

Edit: And if you're talking about his no step vert, that's not too bad either. It's the same as Tyreke Evans last year and he turned out to be pretty good.
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Re: Draft Combine 

Post#113 » by Esohny » Sun May 23, 2010 1:40 am

AQuintus wrote:
shangrila wrote:I'm surprised that Henry measured out so bad there. Still want him for the team though.


What's so bad about a SG standing 6'7" with a 6'11" wingspan and 8'9" standing reach? Those are pretty much prototypical measurements for an NBA SG.

Edit: And if you're talking about his no step vert, that's not too bad either. It's the same as Tyreke Evans last year and he turned out to be pretty good.


Yeah, I don't see too much of an issue with Henry's measurements.
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