Hedo Turkoglu

[moss_is_1]

Just too much money locked into an average player..

[Virtue]

Hedo only steps up in contract years. I don't like this guy.

He was the most improved player in the nba a year before his contract year, no?

So we should pay a 31 year old who is obviously on the decline 10 million a year in the hopes that he has another good performance in his contract year in 2013-2014?

I was merely saying that he actually had a season that earned him the most improved player in the nba, and his contract year was the 08-09 that Orlando reached the finals.

I can't understand why would I want "you" to sign Hedo anyways. I'm not his agent, I doubt you are the wolves management either.

[Esohny]

I was merely saying that he actually had a season that earned him the most improved player in the nba, and his contract year was the 08-09 that Orlando reached the finals.

I can't understand why would I want "you" to sign Hedo anyways. I'm not his agent, I doubt you are the wolves management either.

So it's required to specify that we're speaking about transactions involving the Wolves management, rather than use shorthand that makes it completely clear what we're talking about?

Why are you even here?

[shrink]

TOR doesn't have enough assets to compensate us for relieving them of that contract.

[Virtue]

I was merely saying that he actually had a season that earned him the most improved player in the nba, and his contract year was the 08-09 that Orlando reached the finals.

I can't understand why would I want "you" to sign Hedo anyways. I'm not his agent, I doubt you are the wolves management either.

So it's required to specify that we're speaking about transactions involving the Wolves management, rather than use shorthand that makes it completely clear what we're talking about?

Why are you even here?

You keep changing the subject. I suggest you to read my posts a couple more times. You seem to have a hard time understanding. Actually I'll just help you.

You said he only performs in his contract year, and I was just saying that he actually had two good years in a row and a real bad one, therefore your suggestion was wrong.

Why am I here? You are questioning my presence, as if you were the authority around here and I am guilty because?! I think you should read what you are saying first.

[C.lupus]

He's 30 years old, had one really good year followed by a good (but not really good) year, followed by a bad year. He looks like he peaked two years go and is on the decline yet he has four more years left on his contract. Minnesota should look elsewhere.

[Esohny]

I'm changing the subject? Responding directly to a point in a post (albeit a stupid one) is hardly changing the subject.

And Turkoglu being in a contract year or not is hardly the point. He been in decline the last 2 years (not surprisingly the year he turned 30) on offense, and he's still a poor defender.

And the point of the thread was discussing the possibility of adding the player to the Timberwolves...you know, the team that this forum is devoted to? I suggest you take your own advice and work on reading comprehension.

[skorff26]

TOR doesn't have enough assets to compensate us for relieving them of that contract.

Only thing I can think of is send TOR another avg overpaid player who isn't as overpaid and get assets from that other team too

Something maybe like (throwing this out very quickly)
Tor Out: DeRozan, #13, Hedo
In: Nocioni, 23 (maybe ?), Hollins
-dump hedo

MN Out: Gomes, Sessions, #23?, Pekovic, Hollins, #16
In: Hedo, DeRozan, #5, #13
-get hedo and his contract but maybe pickup DeRozan, #5 (Johnson), #13 (George)

Sac Out: Nocioni, #5
In: #16, Gomes, Sessions, Pekovic
-dump Nocioni, get a solid backup PG (might play ahead of Udrih even), cap savings from Gomes, #16 (not sure who they want), and intriguing player in Pekovic... Sac fans probably won't like it since they don't want to drop noc and #5 together for cap savings, but they do get 3 positive assets (Sessions, Pekovic, 16) so it might happen.

[The J Rocka]

I was merely saying that he actually had a season that earned him the most improved player in the nba, and his contract year was the 08-09 that Orlando reached the finals.

I can't understand why would I want "you" to sign Hedo anyways. I'm not his agent, I doubt you are the wolves management either.

So it's required to specify that we're speaking about transactions involving the Wolves management, rather than use shorthand that makes it completely clear what we're talking about?

Why are you even here?

You keep changing the subject. I suggest you to read my posts a couple more times. You seem to have a hard time understanding. Actually I'll just help you.

You said he only performs in his contract year, and I was just saying that he actually had two good years in a row and a real bad one, therefore your suggestion was wrong.

Why am I here? You are questioning my presence, as if you were the authority around here and I am guilty because?! I think you should read what you are saying first.

Oh boy trade for this guy quickly Kahn. Just TWO good seasons, NOT one but TWO. We are paying a guy lots of money to go out and play TWO good seasons? C'mon now. That money can go to a better cause.

[shangrila]

Here's a better question. If they decide to buy him out or waive him, do you think the team has interest in signing him then?

Personally I don't, but it seems like a better discussion then more pages complaining about his contract.

[Virtue]

Hedo only steps up in contract years. I don't like this guy.

He was the most improved player in the nba a year before his contract year, no?

So we should pay a 31 year old who is obviously on the decline 10 million a year in the hopes that he has another good performance in his contract year in 2013-2014?

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"Hedo only steps up in contract years" = wrong because he had at least two good seasons and he was improving for sure. I did not say he would keep improving or imply that he was gonna be a good sign.

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"So we should pay a 31 year old who is obviously on the decline 10 million a year in the hopes that he has another good performance in his contract year in 2013-2014?"

I still can't see where I suggested that "you" should sign him.

[Darko Miliminutes]

I like Hedo a lot. He's very versatile, and $10 mil per year aint that bad. I've always been a sucker for forwards that can run an offense for stretches. He's got good D, can handle pass and shoot. But his age does make me think twice...but i'd still consider it.

On a far cheaper note, what about Delfino?

[Krapinsky]

Delfino ---

Our team is stocked with role players. If we're going to invest $ in someone it should be for a longtime starter at the position. At this stage in his career, I don't think Delfino is that.

Hedo makes little sense. When Martin's name came up at the dealine, Kahn said "I don't like the contract". I don't see a situation where we would consider taking on Hedo's deal then. When the new CBA hits a Hedo sized contract will probably get you a player like Amare or Boozer.

[Iommi]

So it's required to specify that we're speaking about transactions involving the Wolves management, rather than use shorthand that makes it completely clear what we're talking about?

Why are you even here?

You keep changing the subject. I suggest you to read my posts a couple more times. You seem to have a hard time understanding. Actually I'll just help you.

You said he only performs in his contract year, and I was just saying that he actually had two good years in a row and a real bad one, therefore your suggestion was wrong.

Why am I here? You are questioning my presence, as if you were the authority around here and I am guilty because?! I think you should read what you are saying first.

Oh boy trade for this guy quickly Kahn. Just TWO good seasons, NOT one but TWO. We are paying a guy lots of money to go out and play TWO good seasons? C'mon now. That money can go to a better cause.

Dude never said we should sign him, just that he played very well in a non-contract year season.

[shrink]

TOR doesn't have enough assets to compensate us for relieving them of that contract.

Only thing I can think of is send TOR another avg overpaid player who isn't as overpaid and get assets from that other team too

Something maybe Sac Out: Nocioni, #5
In: #16, Gomes, Sessions, Pekovic
.....

Good idea. And if TOR doesn't want to give up value and instead receive some, there's always Elton Brand ...!