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Post#361 » by Flash4thewin » Sun Nov 28, 2010 7:58 pm

I was wondering if the coaching staff is working on a post game for Beasley that way he can punish smaller SF in the paint. Im guessing that something the might be incorporated next summer?
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Post#362 » by cpfsf » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:28 pm

Flash4thewin wrote:I was wondering if the coaching staff is working on a post game for Beasley that way he can punish smaller SF in the paint. Im guessing that something the might be incorporated next summer?


I've read that the coaches are working on that. In addition, they want him to work on both sides of the lane. He's a legit scorer, but not really a huge threat in other aspects of the game. Be nice if he was more of a playmaker and a better defensive presence, but still glad to have him on the team.
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Re: Game 17: Warriors at Wolves 

Post#363 » by revprodeji » Sun Nov 28, 2010 8:30 pm

Why after one game are we trying to put Beasley at the 4 again? He has been fine as a 3 and just needs more time. We are so knee-jerk it is annoying. 5 games ago he was Mello and Darko was garbage. Now Darko is God and Beasley is Al Harrington.
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Post#364 » by shangrila » Sun Nov 28, 2010 10:04 pm

Eh, I think some more minutes at the 4 for Beasley would be good for the moment. He's definitely more a 4 then a 3 right now.
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Post#365 » by revprodeji » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:08 pm

Based on what? Offensively he should be doing the same thing regardless (face up a big, post a small) so the position does not matter. (Plenty of post space when love drifts at the 3.)

So the difference is defense. His weakspots at defense exist for both the 3 and the 4. I think he simply needs time to learn how to defend the 3 better. I also think the explosion of 3pt shooters lately has more to do with the rotation then just blaming Beasley.
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Post#366 » by NewWolvesOrder » Sun Nov 28, 2010 11:46 pm

We lack players to can penetrate and dish to open teammates when the defense colapses on them. GSW had Curry & Ellis to do this and that's why Wright got all those open shots & Gadzuric all his easy dunks. Beasley is more of a jumshooter himself and even he penetrates he lack vision & passing skills to be a playmaker, he's more of a finisher. Flynn is the only player capable of doing it but we need more, preferably from the wing position. Iggy? I think he fits us well, his only downside is his contract.
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Re: Game 17: Warriors at Wolves 

Post#367 » by AQuintus » Mon Nov 29, 2010 12:33 am

revprodeji wrote:So the difference is defense. His weakspots at defense exist for both the 3 and the 4. I think he simply needs time to learn how to defend the 3 better. I also think the explosion of 3pt shooters lately has more to do with the rotation then just blaming Beasley.


I didn't see the game, but if it was anything like the Memphis game (where Rudy Gay was getting open 3s), it has more to do with Ridnour not being able to stay in front of his man (forcing help) than it does with Beasley.
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Post#368 » by shangrila » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:50 am

revprodeji wrote:Based on what? Offensively he should be doing the same thing regardless (face up a big, post a small) so the position does not matter. (Plenty of post space when love drifts at the 3.)

But he doesn't really post up 3s and at the 4 he has a big advantage in terms of quickness.

So the difference is defense. His weakspots at defense exist for both the 3 and the 4. I think he simply needs time to learn how to defend the 3 better. I also think the explosion of 3pt shooters lately has more to do with the rotation then just blaming Beasley.

I wasn't blaming Beasley or saying he's not a 3 in my post, all I meant was that some more time at the 4 might help his confidence and open up his shooting game by getting him some easy and early shots closer to the rim.
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Post#369 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:28 am

I can't blame Beasley for Wright's game, he was locked in. First shot he made was pretty well contested 3, I knew we were going to be in for a long night because Wright hit that shot, Curry drained a contested 3, and Ellis stuck a long 2 early in the game
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Post#370 » by revprodeji » Mon Nov 29, 2010 3:52 am

shangrila wrote:But he doesn't really post up 3s and at the 4 he has a big advantage in terms of quickness.

I wasn't blaming Beasley or saying he's not a 3 in my post, all I meant was that some more time at the 4 might help his confidence and open up his shooting game by getting him some easy and early shots closer to the rim.


The coaching staff should be looking to exploit the mismatch if a smaller guy is on him.

I am not sure I want him at the 4 much. The method of play would be different and I would rather have him get used to the 3. Also, Love and Tolly are two of our better rotation players and moving Beasley to the 4 takes minutes from them and gives it to a wing player that would not match their productivity.
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