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[Peezo]

Ok, Mr. no sense of humor. I will try and salvage your trade proposal. What do you think of somethign liek this???

Charlotte:
In: Anthony Tolliver, Baron Davis
Out: Boris Diaw, DeSagana Diop

Minnesota
In: Boris Diaw, Eric Gordon
Out: Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer, Anthony Tolliver

L.A. Clippers
In: DeSagana Diop, Wesley Johnson, Corey Brewer
Out: Baron Davis, Eric Gordon

Trade ID #5753302

I'd do it. Love Gordon on this team and Diaw's would be a much better fit than Baron.

Can someone give the reasoning for why these teams would do this deal? With losing our two long athletic wings and hopefully having Webster back to play the two, I'm not even sure we do it.

But i'm sure someone can convince me

[shrink]

Consider taking on Baron Davis ( 3 yr's @ 13 million) if Eric Gordon was included. The basis would be a consolidation trade - Wolves losing 3 pieces from the (Pek, Flynn, Brewer, Bassy, Luke, Martell, Johnson) pile and some of the 1st round picks. Clips getting tools to rebuild.

Let me know your thoughts.

1. The package of Baron Davis + Eric Gordon would be priced at

2010-11: $16 mil
2011-12: $18 mil
2012-13: $24 mil? (That's putting Gordon on a $9 mil contract)

If Baron has little value, that's nearly $20 mil a year for Gordon when he should be worth at best $10.

2. Our pieces are a wide dichotomy of value. Brewer and Telfair are not worth much - expirings we have no plans for. Ridnour, I doubt, is worth his deal over four years, and I'd insist he be included to cut into the Baron-bite. Wes Johnson on the other hand, is a pretty valuable player.

3. I'd be happy to use the cap space versus some of our players with value, but in a deal like this, you pay the cap space now, and feel the sting for three years.

4. I understand that we may have to overpay to bring talent into MIN, but this is too expensive. Moreover, we'd need to convince Gordon to stay in 2012 when he comes off his rookie deal, or at least be willing to match offers.

[mayorhoiberg]

Take anything and everything outside of Beasley, Love, and Rubio. If we could add Gordon to our core... erection.

[sofakingbad]

We're not trying to be mean when we make these comments. These thread titles like this belong on Rubechat (home of trolls, tourette threads, and vague thread titles).

Of course you are. (Trying to be mean) Why snark rather than guidance?

I was trying to figure out a couple of things with this thread, The value we place on our assets as group think, and the value we place on other assets. I understand that 1) I will not agree on the value and 2) you value things differently. I'm talking about how you value work ethic, chemistry. as well as cap-space and picks and talent. What is the general level of comfort for players that have shown inconstant effort but good results. (Cause we already have one on the team)

As far as the framework itself I would like to see Gordon on the team, eating Baron's contract without an additional move would be disturbing. ( 1 of the reasons I choice this framework, if everyone agrees that the cost is good or bad there is no difference of opinions)

The extending 3 players in one year could be tricky but doable, they could structure the deals, similar to the OKC deal with Collision, using the previous years cap room as a signing bonus and lowering the yearly salary. Assuming you could clear the turd of Baron prior to the need to extend.

[shrink]

We're not trying to be mean when we make these comments. These thread titles like this belong on Rubechat (home of trolls, tourette threads, and vague thread titles).

Of course you are. (Trying to be mean) Why snark rather than guidance?

Oh come on. It was a decent question, and I like the comments you made and hope you post more, but I don't think you'd have a hard time coming up with a better title?