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2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN

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Post#161 » by Tirion » Thu Feb 17, 2011 4:53 am

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Tirion wrote:You're aware that Sessions in averaging 18 and 9 while shooting 60% from the field in the month of February, right? That's 7 gameS (not including tonight vs LAL).


And his season average (what I asked for the previous post to clarify what I meant)? 11 and 5 or something like that?


You didn't ask that to clarify, you asked cause you realized that you were wrong.

Let's return back to your original point though, that the fromer Wolves players still suck, they just look good against their former team cause of terrible defense played by the Wolves.
B Calrissian wrote:That has more to do with them now playing our defense than it does them improving.

However Ramon's play during the season (when he had the opportunity and minutes) shows that he's indeed the better player with Cavs than he was with Wolves, he just hadn't has the chance to showcase that cause Rambis was playing Flynn more and had a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) offensive system.
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Re: 2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN 

Post#162 » by B Calrissian » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:08 am

Tirion wrote:
B Calrissian wrote:
Tirion wrote:You're aware that Sessions in averaging 18 and 9 while shooting 60% from the field in the month of February, right? That's 7 gameS (not including tonight vs LAL).


And his season average (what I asked for the previous post to clarify what I meant)? 11 and 5 or something like that?


You didn't ask that to clarify, you asked cause you realized that you were wrong.

Let's return back to your original point though, that the fromer Wolves players still suck, they just look good against their former team cause of terrible defense played by the Wolves.
B Calrissian wrote:That has more to do with them now playing our defense than it does them improving.

However Ramon's play during the season (when he had the opportunity and minutes) shows that he's indeed the better player with Cavs than he was with Wolves, he just hadn't has the chance to showcase that cause Rambis was playing Flynn more and had a (Please Use More Appropriate Word) offensive system.



The two players brought up in this thread were Gomes and Foye for their game tonight against the Timberwolves. They looked good tonight because they were playing us. Their season stats (and common sense) show that these are not their usual numbers.

You then brought up a single game by Sessions. Then when I said I was talking about about season stats not a single game you come up with stats for his last 7 games.. Unless I went into a coma (you wish King Rube) and it is now early in the 2011/2012 season I doubt Sessions has only played 7 games so far this year.

You also must have missed Sessions time with the Bucks. It was clear he was a good player but a bad fit here. He hasn't suddenly become a quality player.
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Re: 2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN 

Post#163 » by lewdog » Thu Feb 17, 2011 5:42 am

What a difference a week makes. :(
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Re: 2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN 

Post#164 » by southern wolf » Thu Feb 17, 2011 11:57 am

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=310216016

"I hate to say it, but if there has ever been a team I have been around that needs the break, this is the team," Timberwolves coach Kurt Rambis said.


Sums it up really.
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Post#165 » by Devilzsidewalk » Thu Feb 17, 2011 12:32 pm

I don't think a break is needed at all, the complete lack of team cohesion shows they need quite the opposite. Nobody wants to believe they're not doing enough or not doing it right in preparation, but the results speak for themselves. Sorry.
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Post#166 » by bluethunder0005 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 1:27 pm

There needs to become some type of order in regards who shoots. I'm tired of seeing Love end up with the 3rd or 4th most FGA. Eliington shot 5-15 last night and had 18 points. Love shot 6-12 and had 18 points. The man should get the ball more, especially without Mike in the lineup.
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Re: 2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN 

Post#167 » by Greco21 » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:00 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:There needs to become some type of order in regards who shoots. I'm tired of seeing Love end up with the 3rd or 4th most FGA. Eliington shot 5-15 last night and had 18 points. Love shot 6-12 and had 18 points. The man should get the ball more, especially without Mike in the lineup.


Ιts not just throwing the ball to him. He is one of the few Minnesota players that creates his own shot. I mean when the ball is in his hands he gets no screens, no cuts but teammates, no nothing... its like time freezing. Even Darko gets some movement when he posts up...

Its great that he has crazy numbers but it sucks when he has to contest all the rebounds by himself. I am not talking about easy rebounds. I am talking about contested ones.

He is a lone wolf on court on offense.

On defense they have to stop protecting him. Ok he is indispensable but he has to learn to play one on one defense. He has to be exposed to pressure instead of being protected. I do not see a single reason Milicic having to guard Blake on the high post when everyone knows how agile Blake is. Why? Gimme a reason...

P.S. Why they did not put Tolliver on Blake when he took it outside.
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Re: 2/16 - Wolves vs. Clippers - 7PM FSN 

Post#168 » by mandurugo » Thu Feb 17, 2011 2:55 pm

Greco21 wrote:
bluethunder0005 wrote:There needs to become some type of order in regards who shoots. I'm tired of seeing Love end up with the 3rd or 4th most FGA. Eliington shot 5-15 last night and had 18 points. Love shot 6-12 and had 18 points. The man should get the ball more, especially without Mike in the lineup.


Ιts not just throwing the ball to him. He is one of the few Minnesota players that creates his own shot. I mean when the ball is in his hands he gets no screens, no cuts but teammates, no nothing... its like time freezing. Even Darko gets some movement when he posts up...

Its great that he has crazy numbers but it sucks when he has to contest all the rebounds by himself. I am not talking about easy rebounds. I am talking about contested ones.

He is a lone wolf on court on offense.

On defense they have to stop protecting him. Ok he is indispensable but he has to learn to play one on one defense. He has to be exposed to pressure instead of being protected. I do not see a single reason Milicic having to guard Blake on the high post when everyone knows how agile Blake is. Why? Gimme a reason...

P.S. Why they did not put Tolliver on Blake when he took it outside.


Well, I haven't watched too many wolves games this season, but as far as I can tell no one has any plays run for them to generate easy shots... except guys who cut to the rim when Darko has the ball and he feeds them for a dunk or a lay-up. Of them all, it seems to me like Beasley has the worst of it on offense, it seems like he's always given the ball in an isolation set. As far as Love being a lone wolf on offense, last night (one of the few games I've actually gone to - it was brutal) it was more like an invisible wolf on offense. And defense. He still collected his boards, but he had absolutely no impact on any other phase of the game. He managed to get to 18 points in garbage time at the end of the game, but he was a non-entity for most of the game. The whole game was tough to watch, most pick-up games where guys are playing to stay on the court are played with more intensity than that game. The clippers really played down to the wolves level - something fairly common in the NBA I think. It's fools gold when the wolves play "well" against the league leaders and challenge them, it's so far from normal NBA (let alone play-off) basketball that they should call it by a different name. Perhaps when teams play the Cavs, the Kings, the Wolves, etc. the league should just bill them as exhibition games. Just a really bad product.

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