Love was recruited during All-star Weekend?

[champalift]

If The Wolves can't start showing sign of improvement next season you gotta be worried about Kevin leaving Minny. Love seem like a guy that really cares about winning and you gotta wonder if he is willing to pass up a chance to sign with a winner just to stay loyal to Minny and get some extra money.

This kind of attitude is a rampant problem with the players in the NBA. Somehow it's entirely up to the fans, GM, coaches, and every player other than the superstar to put on a dog and pony show two years before that players' CONTRACT is up. If you don't, you have to put up with a one-hour gut punch ESPN special or half a season of pouting and "this is a bizness, y'all." Kevin Love has put up some gaudy numbers this year, but he's still the face of a 15-win franchise. Is that everyone else's fault but Kevin's?

This is a league where the players have entirely too much control. Just look at Utah. One player has the ability to force out a LEGENDARY coach and then force a trade...devastating one of the most solid, winning franchises in the league for decades. Deron Williams is a good player, but he's not Stockton or Malone. Yet still, he was able to unravel an entire organization because he was unhappy with a losing streak (or something? what was he so upset with?).

The success of the league rests entirely on the new CBA. Because if a team like the Wolves can't even hope to keep a BORDERLINE all-star like Kevin Love for $70 million, the whole Jenga tower will crumble.

All I'm saying is if I'm in Love's Position after next season and never mind getting to the playoff's if I still haven't seen a 30 win season after 4 years I'm weighing all my options. Me personally, I wouldn't want to sign a long term contract in what might be the prime of my career to a team that might still be rebuilding 4 years from now.

Do you think Love should be forced to stay in Minnesota for his whole career?

Look at it from Love's perspective not yours.

I agree with Stiles. Isn't Love the leader/top talent of that potential less than 30 win in four seasons franchise? I understand that it doesn't all rest on one player, but geez, when is an "all-star" held accountable? I am not saying that if we don't make the playoffs that it is on Love, but if the team continues to lose, I blame our "best" player as much if not more than anyone else.
If he leaves, he is essentially saying he can't bring wins to Minnesota and needs to be second or third in line to win, not an all-star in my opinion.
I think Rubio coming over is huge in his decision, and also the fact that he is an RFA. If we want him, he is ours (basically), and I think that if he is smart and really wants to win, he should look at what maxing a contract does to the talent around you (i.e. KG).

[Iommi]

^^ haha to be an all star you have to be the best player on your team? No, Love is definitely an all-star, but the elite hustle/rebounder with shooting touch is rarely the best player on a playoff team. Are the timberwolves really making adept roster moves and then getting screwed by poor player work ethic? I think at this point the Minnesota front office absolutely has to prove it's capable of providing a solid supporting infrastructure to any single young star it happens to pick up. Seems abjectly ridiculous to say the talent we have would be winning at a steady clip if they simply worked harder.

[champalift]

^^ haha to be an all star you have to be the best player on your team? No, Love is definitely an all-star, but the elite hustle/rebounder with shooting touch is rarely the best player on a playoff team. Are the timberwolves really making adept roster moves and then getting screwed by poor player work ethic? I think at this point the Minnesota front office absolutely has to prove it's capable of providing a solid supporting infrastructure to any single young star it happens to pick up. Seems abjectly ridiculous to say the talent we have would be winning at a steady clip if they simply worked harder.

Why is Love exempt from being held accountable for not winning? He is just as much part of the young infrastructure that needs to learn how to close out games as the rest of the team. Arguably, he should be more as he considers himself a team leader.
But, knowing the way the NBA goes, it will be Kahn's fault...

[Klomp]

Isn't Love the leader/top talent of that potential less than 30 win in four seasons franchise? I understand that it doesn't all rest on one player, but geez, when is an "all-star" held accountable? I am not saying that if we don't make the playoffs that it is on Love, but if the team continues to lose, I blame our "best" player as much if not more than anyone else.

This is the first year hes been our team leader, not fourth.

[Worm Guts]

^^ haha to be an all star you have to be the best player on your team? No, Love is definitely an all-star, but the elite hustle/rebounder with shooting touch is rarely the best player on a playoff team. Are the timberwolves really making adept roster moves and then getting screwed by poor player work ethic? I think at this point the Minnesota front office absolutely has to prove it's capable of providing a solid supporting infrastructure to any single young star it happens to pick up. Seems abjectly ridiculous to say the talent we have would be winning at a steady clip if they simply worked harder.

Why is Love exempt from being held accountable for not winning? He is just as much part of the young infrastructure that needs to learn how to close out games as the rest of the team. Arguably, he should be more as he considers himself a team leader.
But, knowing the way the NBA goes, it will be Kahn's fault...

Love isn't exempt but that doesn't have anything to do with Kahn. Kahn chooses the players on the team, so if the players aren't good enough to win (including Love) that's Kahn's fault.

[God Squad]

A team with Durant, Westbrook, Love and Perkins could be really good for a long time. If The Wolves can't start showing sign of improvement next season you gotta be worried about Kevin leaving Minny. Love seem like a guy that really cares about winning and you gotta wonder if he is willing to pass up a chance to sign with a winner just to stay loyal to Minny and get some extra money.

I could see that team winning the championship.

[EddyCool]

A team with Durant, Westbrook, Love and Perkins could be really good for a long time.

I could see that team winning the championship.

That's neat. How do you see that team acquiring Love after paying Durant, Westbrook and Perkins?

It's nice that the Lakers and Thunder are showing Kevin all this love (waah waah), but is their recruiting pitch that he drag the Wolves through another season of, "trade me where I want or lose me for nothing?" Neither team is going to be in a position to sign Kevin to a big contract during restricted free agency, or if he takes a QO and enters unrestricted free agency (or whatever the CBA allows then) in 2013.

[miltk]

question for the wolves fans....do you think kahn, that's KAHN, not you but KAHN, would bite at Bosh for Kluv?

[AQuintus]

question for the wolves fans....do you think kahn, that's KAHN, not you but KAHN, would bite at Bosh for Kluv?

Probably not, but even if he would, rumor is that Glen Taylor (the Wolves' owner) wouldn't let him.

[cpfsf]

question for the wolves fans....do you think kahn, that's KAHN, not you but KAHN, would bite at Bosh for Kluv?

I can't envision Kahn trading Love for Bosh. The only thing that is certain is that Bosh will leave if Minnesota isn't winning at the end of his contract year. He has absolutely no loyalty to Minnesota whatsoever, and would probably be just a little upset if a lottery bound team snagged him. Seems like it would cause some unnecessary controversy and would serve as a bit of a distraction.

I'm too tired to think of a more appropriate response on contract and gameplay, but I will say that there is no chance Kahn bothers making even a counter offer. This is speculation obviously, but I'm confident that Love won't receive the max either. My view is that Kevin Love's 2010/11 campaign is superior to any of Bosh's seasons in the NBA.

I don't think trading for a player that's being blamed for a lot of Miami's woes isn't exactly the route that I want to go. I'm skimming the Miami board and he doesn't have 100% support over their either. OT, but I think Bosh whines a bit too much. I've actually felt this way even before Crygate. Bosh me a river.

[Worm Guts]

question for the wolves fans....do you think kahn, that's KAHN, not you but KAHN, would bite at Bosh for Kluv?

I can't envision Kahn trading Love for Bosh. The only thing that is certain is that Bosh will leave if Minnesota isn't winning at the end of his contract year. He has absolutely no loyalty to Minnesota whatsoever, and would probably be just a little upset if a lottery bound team snagged him. Seems like it would cause some unnecessary controversy and would serve as a bit of a distraction.

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Bosh just signed a long contract this offseason. Him leaving as a free agent is something we wouldn't have to worry about, although I would be worried about him pouting and trying to force a trade.

[Iommi]

^^ haha to be an all star you have to be the best player on your team? No, Love is definitely an all-star, but the elite hustle/rebounder with shooting touch is rarely the best player on a playoff team. Are the timberwolves really making adept roster moves and then getting screwed by poor player work ethic? I think at this point the Minnesota front office absolutely has to prove it's capable of providing a solid supporting infrastructure to any single young star it happens to pick up. Seems abjectly ridiculous to say the talent we have would be winning at a steady clip if they simply worked harder.

Why is Love exempt from being held accountable for not winning? He is just as much part of the young infrastructure that needs to learn how to close out games as the rest of the team. Arguably, he should be more as he considers himself a team leader.
But, knowing the way the NBA goes, it will be Kahn's fault...

Love isn't exempt but that doesn't have anything to do with Kahn. Kahn chooses the players on the team, so if the players aren't good enough to win (including Love) that's Kahn's fault.

exactly what i was trying to say. Love isn't exempt, but if he is being blamed then so too should Kahn be blamed for thinking the team would succeed with him as the best player. No one will ever say, 'that poor David Kahn put together such a smooth, talented roster, and then those boys just crapped out on him!' no, they'll say 'why did Kahn put together a team of stiffs?' and then fire him and cut the involved players.

Also, homeboy seems to be ignoring the fact that Love is absolutely doing his part. If he was doing more of course the team would be doing better but based on my observations we actually are getting at or close to 100% output from Kevin Love. Our roster, without development, simply doesn't have the necessary basketball talent to compete and that is indisputably the fault of the man who hired everyone.