Pick Watch

[Foye]

So, 19 it is.

I'm all for using this pick plus other assets to trade up to get Biyombo. Who knows where he'll actually go, I guess it all depends on his workouts. Some people think he could even go top 3, some think he'll slip to late first round. If he does happen to slip to 19 it would be like Rubio falling to us at 5, a no-brainer.

I don't care about anyone we could pick @19. Move up or go for a future pick.

[john marston]

I don't care about anyone we could pick @19. Move up or go for a future pick.

Are you David Kahn? He traded mid-first picks 2 times out of 2 so far.

[Foye]

I don't care about anyone we could pick @19. Move up or go for a future pick.

Are you David Kahn? He traded mid-first picks 2 times out of 2 so far.

Well this years draft sucks. So far, I don't know 10 players I would actually like to have on our roster. None of these few players I like will be available @19. You wouldn't go on a ship that has got a big leak either, would you?

[[RCG]]

So, 19 it is.

I'm all for using this pick plus other assets to trade up to get Biyombo. Who knows where he'll actually go, I guess it all depends on his workouts. Some people think he could even go top 3, some think he'll slip to late first round. If he does happen to slip to 19 it would be like Rubio falling to us at 5, a no-brainer.

I don't care about anyone we could pick @19. Move up or go for a future pick.

Agreed. I'm not sure Flynn has a future here, maybe send him with the pick. I'm curious to know what it would take along with the #19 to get either Cleveland or Utah's 2nd 1st rounder.

[Foye]

So, 19 it is.

I'm all for using this pick plus other assets to trade up to get Biyombo. Who knows where he'll actually go, I guess it all depends on his workouts. Some people think he could even go top 3, some think he'll slip to late first round. If he does happen to slip to 19 it would be like Rubio falling to us at 5, a no-brainer.

I don't care about anyone we could pick @19. Move up or go for a future pick.

Agreed. I'm not sure Flynn has a future here, maybe send him with the pick. I'm curious to know what it would take along with the #19 to get either Cleveland or Utah's 2nd 1st rounder.

Well the Cavs are in desperate need of talent. I don't think they deal that pick. Utah slight possibility for a package involving their own pick.

[Krapinsky]

Memphis pick is #20.

Lost tie-breaker with NOH.

[Maritimer]

Sorry, outsider question.

If Rubio is coming over, does that mean Irving is off the radar? If so, it might make sense to try to do something around swapping both of your first rounders with both of Cleveland's -- 1+20 for 2+8. Cleveland may not bite, since the drop from 8 to 20 could be large, but they may think it's worth it to get Irving.

[The J Rocka]

Sorry, outsider question.

If Rubio is coming over, does that mean Irving is off the radar? If so, it might make sense to try to do something around swapping both of your first rounders with both of Cleveland's -- 1+20 for 2+8. Cleveland may not bite, since the drop from 8 to 20 could be large, but they may think it's worth it to get Irving.

Not at all. Where ever the Wolves land & if Irving is available, they will take him no question.

[funkatron101]

Sorry, outsider question.

If Rubio is coming over, does that mean Irving is off the radar? If so, it might make sense to try to do something around swapping both of your first rounders with both of Cleveland's -- 1+20 for 2+8. Cleveland may not bite, since the drop from 8 to 20 could be large, but they may think it's worth it to get Irving.

I think the general feeling around here, based on what we have heard, is the we will either take Irving and move Ridnour/Flynn, or trade Irving for a "star-like" veteran player.

[LOBO 7]

Sorry, outsider question.

If Rubio is coming over, does that mean Irving is off the radar? If so, it might make sense to try to do something around swapping both of your first rounders with both of Cleveland's -- 1+20 for 2+8. Cleveland may not bite, since the drop from 8 to 20 could be large, but they may think it's worth it to get Irving.

For me it would depend on who winds up declaring and where Biyombo's stock is on draft day. If Barnes declares and Biyombo is slated to go around #8, I would probably be all over this. Getting both Barnes and Biyombo is my dream scenario.

[revprodeji]

In a regular year Irving would be a top 5 pick, in this one he is a top overall. I would trade out. Rubio is a better player.

[lobishome]

For me it would depend on who winds up declaring and where Biyombo's stock is on draft day. If Barnes declares and Biyombo is slated to go around #8, I would probably be all over this. Getting both Barnes and Biyombo is my dream scenario.

About Biyombo :

He is repeating the Rubio Case. Now he is in his country, Congo, and he has accused to his team breach of contract and he is trying break it.

The thing is he has a 1000000 € buyout, and (probably) he'll be a low first-round, then he wont can pay the buyout. Now the spanish media are publishing the Biyombo's point of view and the Fuenlabrada's point of view. It seems all will end in the Court.

If he can't solve his contract, It wouldn't rare he needs a"bridge team" who pays his buyout for play 2/3 years before go to the NBA. Have you a deja vu?

[LordBaldric]

In a regular year Irving would be a top 5 pick, in this one he is a top overall. I would trade out. Rubio is a better player.

Kahn might believe this as well and that's why he must be fired. Not one non-Kahn GM in the league would select Rubio over Irving if they were both in this years draft. Nor would anyone trade the #1 pick for Rubio. Not even close.

[Esohny]

In a regular year Irving would be a top 5 pick, in this one he is a top overall. I would trade out. Rubio is a better player.

I don't agree with this.

[Klomp]

In a regular year Irving would be a top 5 pick, in this one he is a top overall. I would trade out. Rubio is a better player.

I don't agree with this.

I do. He hasn't shown enough in just 11 games at the collegiate level to be called the best prospect. He's closer to a Steve Francis than Derrick Rose.

[Esohny]

In a regular year Irving would be a top 5 pick, in this one he is a top overall. I would trade out. Rubio is a better player.

I don't agree with this.

I do. He hasn't shown enough in just 11 games at the collegiate level to be called the best prospect. He's closer to a Steve Francis than Derrick Rose.

As opposed to all the negative things that Rubio has shown? You know what hurts a prospect's value, and projected future? Not improving at all (or hell, even regressing) from year to year.