Hypothetical MIN-POR-TOR 3-way Trade

[Esohny]

Lupus made a great point here. If we're trying to get spanish players to join the team, why don't we skip the hugely overpaid PG and the mediocre SG that I'd like to slap, and go right to Marc Gasol who would actually help the team?

[henrydunn13]

Lupus made a great point here. If we're trying to get spanish players to join the team, why don't we skip the hugely overpaid PG and the mediocre SG that I'd like to slap, and go right to Marc Gasol who would actually help the team?

With what money? You'd need to ditch some salary... what's your pecking order of players you want to get rid of? I assumed it was Pekovic, Flynn, Ridnour - who would you put up in their stead?

[C.lupus]

It's hard to say what the pecking order is outside of Love and Rubio being untouchable. Flynn is gone in the first reasonable deal. Everyone else should be available depending on what the deal is. We need upgrades at SG and C primarily and we need some vets and we need upgrades overall in defense. Wes Johnson or Beasley could be available in an Iggy deal for example. Either of our centers would be available for an upgrade at that position (Pek + #2 + ? for Gasol S&T?). things like that.

I think we are committed to Ridnour backing up Rubio, though. And we are committed to Love at PF.

[shrink]

1. Calderon isn't going to have 9 APG riding the bench behind Rubio.

2. If I'm going to throw an extra $5 mil at a Spanierd, I'm not investing it in the back-up PG .. I'm putting it toward Marc Gasol.

[Esohny]

Lupus made a great point here. If we're trying to get spanish players to join the team, why don't we skip the hugely overpaid PG and the mediocre SG that I'd like to slap, and go right to Marc Gasol who would actually help the team?

With what money? You'd need to ditch some salary... what's your pecking order of players you want to get rid of? I assumed it was Pekovic, Flynn, Ridnour - who would you put up in their stead?

Considering that acquiring Gasol will almost certainly take a sign and trade, the salaries can be worked out in a number of ways.

And the issue with the trade isn't that those players were being sent out, it's the garbage that was coming back in.

[henrydunn13]

1. Calderon isn't going to have 9 APG riding the bench behind Rubio.

2. If I'm going to throw an extra $5 mil at a Spanierd, I'm not investing it in the back-up PG .. I'm putting it toward Marc Gasol.

Rubio starts, Day 1?

[Esohny]

1. Calderon isn't going to have 9 APG riding the bench behind Rubio.

2. If I'm going to throw an extra $5 mil at a Spanierd, I'm not investing it in the back-up PG .. I'm putting it toward Marc Gasol.

Rubio starts, Day 1?

According to the Wolves front office, yes.

[henrydunn13]

Well then it's settled, Jose had 4 more assists. Let's just bring him on in, forget Ridnour & his 5 assists.

haha im honestly not sure if youre being sarcastic right now

some of you guys like the trade, some of you dont - im just happy some of you do because it means its not too far off

[henrydunn13]

Rubio starts, Day 1?

According to the Wolves front office, yes.

Do you personally think that is realistic? He isn't doing huge things in Euroleauge. IMO he's going to need a year or two coming off the bench to grow up and adjust. Is it common opinion that you guys want to 'throw him to the wolves' in year 1? haha bet youve never heard that one before, eh

[B Calrissian]

I could stomach Rudy Goggles if he came cheap but I can't stomach Rudy and Calderon. I'd much rather go all out for one of the Gasol brothers (preferably Marc) to bring in a familiar face.

Agreed. No way would I want Calderon and his contract to be brought in to be a pal to Ricky. He has been hanging with his pals for 2 years now while we have been waiting.

[C.lupus]

Rubio starts, Day 1?

According to the Wolves front office, yes.

Do you personally think that is realistic? He isn't doing huge things in Euroleauge. IMO he's going to need a year or two coming off the bench to grow up and adjust. Is it common opinion that you guys want to 'throw him to the wolves' in year 1? haha bet youve never heard that one before, eh

Most people are expecting an adjustment period. It could be that Rid starts in the beginning and Rubio takes over the starter job mid-season. It's hard to say but RR is the PG of the future here and Kahn did say he would start when he got here.

[Klomp]

Rubio starts, Day 1?

According to the Wolves front office, yes.

Do you personally think that is realistic? He isn't doing huge things in Euroleauge. IMO he's going to need a year or two coming off the bench to grow up and adjust. Is it common opinion that you guys want to 'throw him to the wolves' in year 1? haha bet youve never heard that one before, eh

Brandon Jennings Euroleague: 7.6 ppg (38.7%), 1.6 apg, 1.2 spg, 1.2 tpg (19.6 mpg)
Ricky Rubio Euroleague 2010-11: 6.5 ppg (31%), 3.6 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.8 tpg (22.7 mpg)

If Brandon can go from putting up those stats to playing and starting all 82 games while finishing third in the rookie of the year voting , why can't Ricky, who was considered a better prospect at the time of the draft?

[henrydunn13]

^ Fair enough. I definitely think he will eventually be a nice player, just might take some time, 1-2 years?

Rubio and Ridnour would be a decent pair, but IMO Rubio and Calderon would be better, money aside. I also think Fernandez is a good option for you guys - moreso than Calderon.

[Beas]

I don't want an overpaid Calderon on this team, even if he is Spanish. We already have a solid back up in Ridnour. Now I could agree Rudy might be a good fit for the team but I don't want to take Calderon with him.

[The J Rocka]

Well then it's settled, Jose had 4 more assists. Let's just bring him on in, forget Ridnour & his 5 assists.

haha im honestly not sure if youre being sarcastic right now

some of you guys like the trade, some of you dont - im just happy some of you do because it means its not too far off

I was indeed. Just because he has 4 more assists than Ridnour doesn't mean he's better for our team/future. We would rather have the money going to an upgrade at C and/or SG. Thanks for the offer though.

PS: Tell the Raptors board that we have ZERO interest in Jose and that deals with him coming to the Wolves should be shot down immediately, unless you include DeRozan with him (which will never happen).

[shangrila]

Everything you just said Calderon would provide Ridnour already does. The only difference is he costs less.

Come on guys - Calderon averaged 9 assists last year, Ridnour averaged 5 assists (same minutes). There shouldn't be any debate about who is the better PG. The salary is the issue here, not the player.

And like I already pointed out, Ridnour was more efficient offensively and better defensively. 4 extra assists doesn't make up for someone who's worse on both ends of the court.