Big trade with Det and Cle brewing?

[shangrila]

Stuckey is gross. Combo guard, inefficient, selfish...yuck. At least Beasley has a nice personality.

And I thought the reason to entertain trading Beasley was to make room for Williams? If they're getting rid of Williams too...what's the point?

[Klomp]

Stuckey is gross. Combo guard, inefficient, selfish...yuck. At least Beasley has a nice personality.

And I thought the reason to entertain trading Beasley was to make room for Williams? If they're getting rid of Williams too...what's the point?

Beasley is just as inefficient as Stuckey. (Beasley is .01 better)

Roster balance. Johnson should be better at SF than SG. We already have other guys behind Beasley at SF and PF who deserve playing time. Our only SG on the roster is Ellington, enough said.

[shrink]

Varejao was a runner up of 6th man last year

True, but to be more specific, he was third for the 2009-10 season, by a wide gap

Jamal Crawford Atlanta 580
Jason Terry Dallas 220
Anderson Varejao Cleveland 126

His 31 games last season doesn't mean he still has the same value.

[shangrila]

Stuckey is gross. Combo guard, inefficient, selfish...yuck. At least Beasley has a nice personality.

And I thought the reason to entertain trading Beasley was to make room for Williams? If they're getting rid of Williams too...what's the point?

Beasley is just as inefficient as Stuckey. (Beasley is .01 better)

Roster balance. Johnson should be better at SF than SG. We already have other guys behind Beasley at SF and PF who deserve playing time. Our only SG on the roster is Ellington, enough said.

Wes at SG and Beasley at SF > Stuckey at SG and Wes at SF

[Krapinsky]

How about...

CLE Out: #4, TE
CLE In: #2, Hamilton

DET Out: Hamilton, #8, Stuckey
DET In: (Cap Space from TE), Beasley

MIN Out: Beasley, #2
MIN In: Stuckey, #4, #8

I think we give up the two best players in that deal. That usually means you lose the trade.

[cavsfan58]

If the cavaliers get some sort of trade with the 8th pick they will not package it with the 4th pick to move up 2 spots

1- Kyrie Irving
2- Derrick Williams (I think you will trade the pick)
3. Brandon Knight
4. Enes Kanter
5. Kemba Walker
6. Jan Vesley
7. Jonas Valanocious
8. Kawhi Leonard

I think Kyrie, Kawhi and Enes is > then Kyrie and Derrick Williams

[AQuintus]

I think Kyrie, Kawhi and Enes is > then Kyrie and Derrick Williams

Good for you, but I'd be willing to bet that your FO (and pretty much every other FO in the NBA) disagrees.

[moss_is_1]

When it's a 2 player draft it's not as easy as saying they won't want to move up only 2 spots, if they move up into the top tier of prospects it's a lot different.

[the_bruce]

Ohhhhh 2 part trade everyone will love!

Trade #1
CLE IN: RIP 2
CLE OUT: 4

MIN IN: 4 8
MIN OUT: 2

DET IN: #20
DET OUT: RIP #8


Trade #2
TOR IN: #8, Flynn, Pek
TOR OUT: #5

MIN IN: Iggy
MIN OUT: #5

PHI IN: #5, Tolliver
PHI OUT: Iggy

Biyombo/Darko
Love/Randolph
Beasley/Webster
Iggy/Johnson
Rubio/Ridnour

[Esohny]

I'm assuming that you mean that the Wolves would include 20 in trade 1, and trade #8 for Iggy.

I might go Kanter at #4, but I'd be happy with your 2 trades. It seems like the Wolves might have to include a bit more in the 1st trade.

[captainrebel]

Ohhhhh 2 part trade everyone will love!

Trade #1
CLE IN: RIP 2
CLE OUT: 4

MIN IN: 4 8
MIN OUT: 2

DET IN: #20
DET OUT: RIP #8


Trade #2
TOR IN: #8, Flynn, Pek
TOR OUT: #5

MIN IN: Iggy
MIN OUT: #5

PHI IN: #5, Tolliver
PHI OUT: Iggy

Biyombo/Darko
Love/Randolph
Beasley/Webster
Iggy/Johnson
Rubio/Ridnour

OK...Detroit trades the 8th for 20th

[shrink]

Ohhhhh 2 part trade everyone will love!

Trade #1
CLE IN: RIP 2
CLE OUT: 4

MIN IN: 4 8
MIN OUT: 2

DET IN: #20
DET OUT: RIP #8


Trade #2
TOR IN: #8, Flynn, Pek
TOR OUT: #5

MIN IN: Iggy
MIN OUT: #5

PHI IN: #5, Tolliver
PHI OUT: Iggy

Biyombo/Darko
Love/Randolph
Beasley/Webster
Iggy/Johnson
Rubio/Ridnour

OK...Detroit trades the 8th for 20th

... and saves about $25 million dollars.

I like the TOR spin. If they don't love Kemba as their new PG at 5, I could see them slipping back a couple spots for Pek and Flynn.

As always, I don't think Iggy is worth a high pick because of his salary, but I know many do.

[rennytwentyone]

I don't want Iggy if it involves #2, they can have #20 for him tho.

[Fire Mchale]

I'm having a hard time getting behind dealing the #2 in a deal for Iggy. I can see moving down to 4-8 and using that pick for Iggy, but combining Iggy's salary with the #2 pick overall are two expensive propositions and I don't see it happening. I would trade the 8 and filler for Iggy and would consider the 4 and filler for Iggy and the 16, but I would probably want to be able to include Lazar and whatever the FO considers to be our worst contract.