Johnny Flynn rumors?

cavsfan58 · Post #1 » by **cavsfan58** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:09 pm

http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStori ... TORY_33383
It seems like now that you guys signed rubio that flynn is the odd man out... what would you guys be looking to get from toronto and sacramento?

Foye · Post #2 » by **Foye** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:14 pm

A protected future 1st would be great. Expect more like a salary dump or adding a vet (Barbosa for example), though.

shangrila · Post #3 » by **shangrila** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:19 pm

From Toronto I would be cool with Bayless or, at worst, Barbosa. From Sacramento? Greene would be cool.

Foye · Post #4 » by **Foye** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:23 pm

shangrila wrote:From Toronto I would be cool with Bayless or, at worst, Barbosa. From Sacramento? Greene would be cool.

I don't care about Greene and Bayless. They would have trouble getting PT here as well.

Kumar · Post #5 » by **Kumar** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:35 pm

Flynn packaged with #20 for OJ.

MEM gets a backup point and the #20 - MIN gets their starting SG.

shrink · Post #6 » by **shrink** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:36 pm

Pricewise. I value him at being worth about about a 17 pick.

He has a better chance of becoming a useful player than other guys in this draft.

I'd prefer a future pick, since it helps with roster glut, or including him as small incentive in a larger trade. I'm not interested in Bayless of Barbosa, so TOR's options are limited unless they want to make this a bigger trade.

[RCG] · Post #7 » by **[RCG]** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 4:51 pm

Top 10-protected future 1st from Toronto, Phoenix or Sacramento would be nice.

Esohny · Post #8 » by **Esohny** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 5:02 pm

Kumar wrote:Flynn packaged with #20 for OJ.

MEM gets a backup point and the #20 - MIN gets their starting SG.

I would think a 3-way would be needed if the target was Mayo. I doubt Memphis wants Flynn.

Post #9 » by **Calinks** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 10:30 pm

It all depends on how many other teams believe he can turn the corner and get back to his rookie form. If a handful of teams feel that way then we could be looking at a top 10-20 pick return. If no teams are offering, Kahn will end up moving him for whatever he can get eventually.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #10 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Sun Jun 5, 2011 10:32 pm

I think teams want him because we have Rubio now and figure they can get him for basically nothing. There's always a market for a top 10 pick still on his rookie contract.

Esohny · Post #11 » by **Esohny** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 12:08 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:I think teams want him because we have Rubio now and figure they can get him for basically nothing. There's always a market for a top 10 pick still on his rookie contract.

I'd be happy to package him, get a future (highly protected, if necessary) pick, or hell, get straight cap if the Wolves keep going and get enough to sign a decent free agent (Marc Gasol please).

Krapinsky · Post #12 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:06 am

I don't think Gasol or even Bogut is the answer for what we want to become. Perhaps if we were running the triangle, sure.

We want to become a running team with Rubio and take advantage of the athleticism that our youth brings, but we can't do that with Love and Gasol as our two big fat plodding bigs. With Love I think we need a big that's going to run the floor, whether that's Randolph, Biyombo, Kanter or Jonas!.

Post #13 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 1:15 am

I don't think many thought Foye and Miller could get us #5, so it will be interesting to see how much Flynn can get us.

Wolves21 · Post #14 » by **Wolves21** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:32 am

Well I will take Evans and DeRozan

but being more realistic I would take Garcia or Barbosa to give us a solid back up SG that can give us a pop off of the bench and be our six or seventh man.

Breakdown777 · Post #15 » by **Breakdown777** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 2:59 am

I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.

Grits n Gravy · Post #16 » by **Grits n Gravy** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:02 am

Breakdown777 wrote:I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.

he's making 6 mil per year the next 2 years

Breakdown777 · Post #17 » by **Breakdown777** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 3:21 am

kiwi_adam wrote:
Breakdown777 wrote:I like the idea of Garcia. He's active on D.

he's making 6 mil per year the next 2 years

Nevermind then...

I'd rather spend 14+ on Iggy than 6 on Garcia.

Esohny · Post #18 » by **Esohny** » Mon Jun 6, 2011 4:30 am

Krapinsky wrote:I don't think Gasol or even Bogut is the answer for what we want to become. Perhaps if we were running the triangle, sure.

We want to become a running team with Rubio and take advantage of the athleticism that our youth brings, but we can't do that with Love and Gasol as our two big fat plodding bigs. With Love I think we need a big that's going to run the floor, whether that's Randolph, Biyombo, Kanter or Jonas!.

By "we," I assume you mean Kahn. I know that it's a lot to ask, but I would really hope that Kahn would have realized by now that the whole "no defense, all youth, tons of turnovers, no effective half-court game, let's try to run all the time" strategy is stupid, and he should just try to get effective players on the team.

It's not like you need the bigs to be the ones finishing fast breaks anyway, that's supposed to be what Wes Johnson, Randolph, and to an extent Beasley are for. Let Rubio and whoever run when there's an opportunity, and otherwise play a pick and roll game between Rubio and Love/Kanter/Gasol/whoever.