What is the WORST thing Kahn&Co. could do?

[C.lupus]

Keeping Kurt Rambis

beat me to it.

[deeney0]

[eyeteeth]

Draft Williams and keep him.

[[RCG]]

Draft Williams and keep him.

I wouldn't mind that. Obviously either Randolph or Tolliver would have to be moved but again it wouldn't be the end of the world though I prefer Kanter.

[Breakdown777]

For the most part it seems like it'd be pretty tough for Kahn to screw the pooch on this one. This board is pretty split right now. Some love Williams, some hate him. Some love Kanter, some hate him. As long as we get value in any moves we make, are any of us going to be truly disappointed?

I think the major thing is giving up too much for someone. As long as there are no Al Jefferson-type trades, I'll be happy with whatever.

[younggunsmn]

Pair Love and Kanter defensively. Take on an Injury Prone Sideshow Bob's 4 reamaining years in a trade down. Not get any value for the 2, or take Williams and he rots on the bench or forces Love to play big mins at C and we give up ~ 110 PPG again. Draft a big man bust 2nd overall.
Trade Beasley, Randolph, or Wes for Pennies on the dollar. Add an overpriced player who can't play defense.
A repeat the Webster trade with the 20th pick for a crappy overpaid role player that creates a position glut.

But the #1, by a MILE, is BRINGING BACK KURT RAMBIS.

[TheProdigy]

The worst thing he can do is to continue adding players that don't fit into the coach's system. Either Rambis needs to be fired or the entire roster needs to be reshaped to fit the implemented system. I vote fire Rambis(but I'm not the guy paying his salary).

[southern wolf]

That's a price I'm willing to pay for a new colour scheme.

[rennytwentyone]

The worst thing he can do is to continue adding players that don't fit into the coach's system. Either Rambis needs to be fired or the entire roster needs to be reshaped to fit the implemented system. I vote fire Rambis(but I'm not the guy paying his salary).

You're not? I always thought you were! I agree though, Rambis needs to be shown the door. Recent reports and Tweets suggest him staying with a revamped staff, but I don't like that either.

Getting Rubio to come over is a breath of fresh air for the franchise, and we should do the same with our head coach, preferably with an up and coming coach that can grow with the players and team as well.

[Breakdown777]

Pair Love and Kanter defensively. Take on an Injury Prone Sideshow Bob's 4 reamaining years in a trade down. Not get any value for the 2, or take Williams and he rots on the bench or forces Love to play big mins at C and we give up ~ 110 PPG again. Draft a big man bust 2nd overall.
Trade Beasley, Randolph, or Wes for Pennies on the dollar. Add an overpriced player who can't play defense.
A repeat the Webster trade with the 20th pick for a crappy overpaid role player that creates a position glut.

But the #1, by a MILE, is BRINGING BACK KURT RAMBIS.

So you've poo-pooed most of the common avenues discussed on this board. I take it you want to trade #2 for someone at a position of need who can play D? Or do you want Biyombo at #2?

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You're not? I always thought you were! I agree though, Rambis needs to be shown the door. Recent reports and Tweets suggest him staying with a revamped staff, but I don't like that either.

Getting Rubio to come over is a breath of fresh air for the franchise, and we should do the same with our head coach, preferably with an up and coming coach that can grow with the players and team as well.

I'm beginning to come to the sad conclusion that even though everyone on this board knows Rambis needs to go,...he'll stay until xmas and then get canned due to lack of foresight, poor planning, and penny pinching.

[wildvikeswolves]

Draft Williams and keep him.

the worst thing we could do is draft and keep the best player available to us?

I think passing on Williams would be a big mistake, not gonna say its the worst thing we could do though

[wiLQ]

The point of this thread is to discuss rumors or ideas that would be horrible for the team.

IMHO the answer is "change little or nothing and continue delusion that team doesn't need MAJOR overhaul".

[weasel]

HoopsWorld updated their mock today and now has us taking Valanciunas with the #2. Is that HW being HW, or is that them trying to figure out Kahns best mistake?

[Devilzsidewalk]

worst thing is overpaying; I'd hate to see Kahn get desperate and overpay for a player bigger on name than game. That rhymes

[younggunsmn]

So you've poo-pooed most of the common avenues discussed on this board. I take it you want to trade #2 for someone at a position of need who can play D? Or do you want Biyombo at #2?

Not happy with many of our options, but some are definitely better than others.
Iggy/Bogut/Bynum (even Ellis) would make this team so much better, even if they are grossly overpaid and/or injury prone. I take that risk and eat the salary. If they were healthy/paid less those guys would be untouchable. My next favorite scenario is trading down, ending up with Jonas or Biyombo and a future lottery pick. Next would be Derozan + Jonas/Biyombo at 5, or 4+8 (Jonas/Biyombo and Burks).

Slightly negative (reaslistic but disappointing): Keeping 2 and taking Williams, Jonas, or Biyombo.

PO'd: any scenario involving us taking Kanter or reaching for someone other than Williams, Jonas, or Biyombo. Or taking on Varejao (whom I think is highly overrated, overpaid and injury prone, though others seem to like him).

2008 draft night level meltdown: Taking Kanter 2nd overall.

I don't think Kahn is interested in an expensive veteran. So I think the most hopeful likely scenario for me is Kahn getting excellent value in a trade down (derozan, 8, or future lottery pick) and taking Biyombo or Valanciunas (though I like Jonas more, I'm intrigued by Biyombo's defensive potential).

[miltk]

trade kluv.

[JMillott]

The worst?

If the Cavs take Williams #1 and then the Wolves don't draft Irving because they already have Ricky Rubio. I see Irving as a can't miss (barring injury or Rambis) high quality starting PG and while i'm not against Rubio being given the chance to live up to all the trouble they went through to get him i'm absolutely not willing to pass on Irving to give him that chance.

I think Irving is going to be an efficient scorer, solid defender and one of the most complete PG's of his era as I think he projects as a high assist low turnover guy (3.5:1) basically I see him as a 20/10ish type who'll shoot upwards of 45/40/85%. I think he'll consistently be getting oratings of at least 115 or better and he'll be no worse then slightly above average on defense.

That being said drafting him at #2 overall after having already taken Rubio, Flynn, Lawson and having already signed Sessions and Ridnour it'd be a PR nightmare for them but you take the BPA if the gap is that large in my opinion. I have a pretty high opinion of Enes Kanter as well but I wouldn't pass on Irving.

Quite frankly, if i'm the Cavs GM i'd happily take Kyrie Irving #1 and then draft Bismack Biyombo #4 forget all of the lets get Derrick Williams and a PG talk.

That being said, Kahn did the dumbest thing I could think of last summer by giving away Al Jefferson to a division rival for what is likely to amount to the #20 pick and a #20 pick down the road instead of just understanding that Jefferson had comeback from a major knee injury faster then he should've and struggled with it and a poorly designed new offense.

If they had simply allowed Al Jefferson to get healthy to repair his trade value god only knows what they might've been able to swing at the deadline or during this draft had they waited. I'd love to hear how his defense could've hurt the Wolves from some haters when Utah managed to have a better defense with him as the center then the Wolves managed with Darko and the Wolves defense was exactly as bad this year as it was the year before.

I'm not sure that you couldn't get Iggy straight up for Al Jefferson right now if they still had him.