Keep Jonny Flynn

[lobishome]

Do you mean his dribbling? That is one of Barea's greatest strengths I think.

Yeah, I mean dribbling (here we use the word "dribbling" in other sense"), but I don't think Barea has a good dribbling for his size.

EDIT : I could swear I've read here a post wich said : Flynn already is gone. Has anybody deleted this post or Must I change of camel?

[eyeteeth]

lobis, when people wrote "Flynn is already gone," it is just an expression. He has not been traded yet, but I think he must be traded before next season.

There are two big differences between JJ Barea and Jonny Flynn. One is defense. Barea plays surprisingly good defense for a very small player, Jonny Flynn plays horrible defense. The other difference is court vision. Barea makes many passes without making many turnovers, but Jonny Flynn is not a good passer. A point guard needs to see all the players on the floor at once, and see where to pass the ball to get the easiest chance at a basket. Jonny Flynn is really not very good at this. In fact he is bad at it.

In both of these things Barea has the advantage of many years experience, but I think he also simply has more basketball intelligence. Jonny Flynn can look at Barea and try to be more like him (in fact, this is probably the perfect thing for him to do), but he will need to do it somewhere else.

Right now the Wolves need to win more right away. They are a young team that has had a lot of struggles. Jonny Flynn has a lot of "on the job" learning he needs to do. The Wolves need better play right now, and not somewhere in the future we don't even know if it will happen. So this team is not a good place for Flynn to do his learning.

[shangrila]

I just think Flynn has checked out in this city and, honestly, I don't really blame him. With getting jerked around by the coach and FO while also not having a fanbase to back you has to have been hard.

So yeah, I could see him turning it around, but not here.

[lobishome]

lobis, when people wrote "Flynn is already gone," it is just an expression. He has not been traded yet, but I think he must be traded before next season.

There are two big differences between JJ Barea and Jonny Flynn. One is defense. Barea plays surprisingly good defense for a very small player, Jonny Flynn plays horrible defense. The other difference is court vision. Barea makes many passes without making many turnovers, but Jonny Flynn is not a good passer. A point guard needs to see all the players on the floor at once, and see where to pass the ball to get the easiest chance at a basket. Jonny Flynn is really not very good at this. In fact he is bad at it.

In both of these things Barea has the advantage of many years experience, but I think he also simply has more basketball intelligence. Jonny Flynn can look at Barea and try to be more like him (in fact, this is probably the perfect thing for him to do), but he will need to do it somewhere else.

Right now the Wolves need to win more right away. They are a young team that has had a lot of struggles. Jonny Flynn has a lot of "on the job" learning he needs to do. The Wolves need better play right now, and not somewhere in the future we don't even know if it will happen. So this team is not a good place for Flynn to do his learning.

I understand .. It's like if you say to a girl : I want eat you with potatoes.

BTW, about Barea and Flynn two things : First, Barea was worst player than Flynn at the same age. Two, Rubio can be a good mentor for Flynn. (Don't laugh, dude ).

[phonzadellika]

I was kind of on the fence about trading Flynn...hate to see him go without him getting a good shot at redeeming last season under a different coach that would play him to his strengths, but this got me thinking:

Jonny Flynn has a lot of "on the job" learning he needs to do. The Wolves need better play right now, and not somewhere in the future we don't even know if it will happen. So this team is not a good place for Flynn to do his learning.

Including the #2, assuming we keep him, we then have Rubio/Johnson/2 as our first/second year players, maybe #20 as a first year player as well, and AR and Beas entering year 2 of the systems with Beas playing his 2nd year on the perimeter. That is a lot of youth. Adding Jonny Flynn to the youth mix means that the coaching staff has 1 more guy to worry about trying to help fulfill their potential rather than just telling them what they need to do. And that's if the staff has finally given up on trying to make Darko more than what he is.

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[lobishome]

... That is a lot of youth. Adding Jonny Flynn to the youth mix means that the coaching staff has 1 more guy to worry about trying to help fulfill their potential rather than just telling them what they need to do ...

Yeah, but this year nobody expects nothing of the team, ... at least I don't expect nothing(*) of the team . It's a development year, we only ask the Wolves Fun and Run, the perfect scenario for a lot of young players. And Ridnour isn't the Eighth Wonder.

(*) nothing = playoffs

[KAHN_SWITCH]

Give him another year, let him get over his hip issues, bump his trade stocks up, then if its still not working out move him. I think a lot of people underestimate how bad his hip injury is physically and mentally.

[C.lupus]

His stock isn't going to go up playing 3rd string. The PG position is set now Rubio and Ridnour is it. Flynn is the odd man out and there is just about a zero percent chance that he is a Wolf next season.

[KAHN_SWITCH]

His stock isn't going to go up playing 3rd string. The PG position is set now Rubio and Ridnour is it. Flynn is the odd man out and there is just about a zero percent chance that he is a Wolf next season.

Not as 3rd string PG his value wont rise that much, but if, and i hope it doesnt happen. One of Rubio or Ridnour get injured that opens the door for him to show the NBA he belongs in the league.

[shrink]

I think you're both right.

If we want his trade value to rise, we'd have to invest minutes, and I think that's unlikely unless we have an injury. Right now, he's worth more to another team than he is to us, because they'd have the minutes to invest to take a chance he improves.

However, if we are offered nothing for him, there's little reason to trade him and risk an injury to Rubio or Ridnour.

[Klomp]

David Thorpe provides a reason why the Wolves should hang on to Flynn a little longer...

You know one of the things that could really help him is that if there’s a training camp and Jonny Flynn was there. You’re not gonna find a quicker point guard than Jonny Flynn is. That could really help him to be dealing with that each day (there’s lots of other things that Jonny does that aren’t so good). I think that defensively he’ll be able to do some things right away. His feel for the game is very good and that’s gonna help him a ton. You know he’s a long dude–he’s longer than you realize. And that often helps when you’re longer than people expect because players get lazy with themselves.

http://www.awolfamongwolves.com/?p=556

[Dewey]

I want Jonny out, but if there are no good offers sit him at the end of the bench until he EARN's his pt - not an issue we need to waste time discussing.

To this point he has chosen not to play any respectable defense, so that is a deeeeep concern. I get the injury thing, but the choice to make "no effort" defensively is very disturbing.