The Webster/Miller trade chip next offseason

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It's kind of weird... long ago I decided I hated him because he was pissy and pushy against KG (may not have been playoffs specifically). Times change.

Miller is a classic "love him on your team, hate him on any other team" veteran. If he can suit up and play 15-20 MPG 60-70 games for the Woofies, I think he'd make a difference.

I like all the roster advantages of the young, cheap talent, and the easily moved veterans. I just don't trust that Kahn is the guy to finally make the signature move cash in these chips.

I think he is. I think he's gotten a bad rep but he seems to get trades pretty well. I think he knew Webster and Miller could come up pretty big.

[Kurosawa]

This. If Kahn does one thing extremely well, it's trading. His ability to manufacture assets out of thin air is pure alchemy.

[senatorbobo]

I like all the roster advantages of the young, cheap talent, and the easily moved veterans. I just don't trust that Kahn is the guy to finally make the signature move cash in these chips.

Why not? He's the one who acquired all of them sans Love.

Which is why I haven't completely turned on him, but things like his treatment of Rambis(who I agree needs to be gone) and his selling of 2nd rounders(why couldn't he flip them for future picks?), or giving up extra picks(Flynn deal, Etan Thomas deal) bother me. We need to either improve significantly and then make an "all-in" move after next season, or cash in some of our chips at the deadline and make a serious move. I'm not saying Kahn can't do this, but I'm surely not confident.

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Just a couple of ideas:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=5r4rd6f

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4xzzvz8

[TrentTuckerForever]

I like all the roster advantages of the young, cheap talent, and the easily moved veterans. I just don't trust that Kahn is the guy to finally make the signature move cash in these chips.

Why not? He's the one who acquired all of them sans Love.

Don't get me wrong, it's possible. Just don't make the mistake of thinking that acquiring all-star caliber talent that fits together is the same as taking a flier on Michael Beasley. Low-risk, high-reward he's proven he can pull off (which has helped in creating assets, not creating a team.) I give him full marks for bottoming out - it's what McHale should have done with the KG trade. But gutting a team and building a team are two different processes.

For example, I like the Williams pick a lot, but I think from a team standpoint it means you're going to have to make a decision on either Beasley or Love eventually. This kind of situation (where you pick the best available guy and make a move for fit later on) isn't the end of the world, as the Jeff Green trade showed last year. But Kahn hasn't shown that he can maximize a deal from a basketball standpoint. He's shown he knows value, but that's different than having the vision to put an actual team together.

[TrentTuckerForever]

Which is why I haven't completely turned on him, but things like his treatment of Rambis(who I agree needs to be gone) and his selling of 2nd rounders(why couldn't he flip them for future picks?), or giving up extra picks(Flynn deal, Etan Thomas deal) bother me. We need to either improve significantly and then make an "all-in" move after next season, or cash in some of our chips at the deadline and make a serious move. I'm not saying Kahn can't do this, but I'm surely not confident.

To amplify the esteemed senator's point - remember the Al Jefferson trade, which was so telegraphed that we (as a fan base) couldn't help but think we might have gotten more value if he wasn't shopped so hard beforehand. Kahn could be the guy to turn it around in MN, but he's made some mistakes in dealing with his contemporaries that will make a Pau Gasol or Monta Ellis-level deal tougher to pull off, IMO.

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We could send Webster & Pekovic plus the Memphis 1st to Cleveland who can absorb them with LeBron's TPE. That would give us a lot of cap-space to go after Gasol, Nene, Oden...

[NoelTheMole]

We could send Webster & Pekovic plus the Memphis 1st to Cleveland who can absorb them with LeBron's TPE. That would give us a lot of cap-space to go after Gasol, Nene, Oden...

Yes please! If Oden didn't have bones made of glass I'd say target him, but I do like Gasol. Especially with the Rubio connection.