Min/Orl trade

[Peezo]

I have to think that ORL can get a much better offer. Clips offer our #1, E Gordon, Kaman, and whatever else, while also being able to take back that toxic Arenas contract. And that was just the first team I thought of.

But any Wolves fan who thinks getting Dwight under any circumstance isn't a done deal is crazy. There is only one Dwight Howard in the league. There are 15/20 quality PFs, maybe 6 solid centers. I'd even take Gilbeau.

Seriously?

Kevin Love (PF), Wesley Johnson (SG/SF), Anthony Randolph (PF/C), Martel Webster (SG/SF), Darko (C), Brad Miller (Expiring C), Luke Ridnour (PG), Nikola Pekovic (C)
or
Kaman, Eric Gordon, a future 1st round pick.....and some filler.


Unless Blake Griffin is in the deal, the Clippers can't beat that package from the Wolves.
With Blake Griffin in the deal, the Clippers don't have enough that Dwight would resign and stay. That team wouldn't even be as good as the Orlando team Dwight won't resign with.

Seriously. I think they have the capability to beat our offer because I don't think it would take them 8 players just to make salary work and they could throw in all the same type of pieces we could, just in a condensed version (i.e. not 7-8 players). I also think that they would be a place that Dwight is much more willing to go, which would help the deal to move along whereas we would be fighting against that.

Just because we value our quality young players and could-be evaporating contracts (webster/miller) doesn't mean that another franchise places the same value on them. Furthermore, I didn't say that this is the best offer, I was simply trying to explain how there are many teams who could beat our offer.

[Freddy Rubio]

I don't think it would be in the best interest of the team to gut the roster for Dwight, its no way I'm giving up Beas and D-Will in a package for Dwight Howard. Maybe Minnesota should just wait out till he is a free agent. We have a young talented roster and though I don't expect him to come here, he may @ least consider it.

[NoelTheMole]

Honestly with how much depth has affected the Heat, and Knicks, I don't see any team gutting their roster just for Dwight Howard. GMs must be getting wise to this being poor practice, and not the way to build a championship team. If anything teams will just wait and grab Dwight when he becomes a free agent. Then it's a matter of who has the space.

[Devilzsidewalk]

if he's willing to sign an extension, I'd say take whatever you want. I think Dwight and our bench is a better team than our top 5 guys of Rubio/Wes/Beasley/Williams/Love.

[Peezo]

I think Dwight is the type of player who you could only trade for two or three other guys in the league. Even then you might be crazy. I think you do whatever you have to do to get him (assuming this is a signed Dwight) and then figure out the rest.

The one thing we know that DOESN'T work is surrounding him with bloated contracts of non-superstars (Arenas, Hedo, Rashard (almost)). So step one is get Dwight, and step two is don't do that.

[Narf]

Seriously. I think they have the capability to beat our offer because I don't think it would take them 8 players just to make salary work and they could throw in all the same type of pieces we could, just in a condensed version (i.e. not 7-8 players). I also think that they would be a place that Dwight is much more willing to go, which would help the deal to move along whereas we would be fighting against that.

Just because we value our quality young players and could-be evaporating contracts (webster/miller) doesn't mean that another franchise places the same value on them. Furthermore, I didn't say that this is the best offer, I was simply trying to explain how there are many teams who could beat our offer.

What are those better offers?

And remember, MONEY MATTERS.
Orlando can't pay $90 million dollars a year for 2 good players + the crap they have on their team. Orlando must get an offer that greatly reduces salary and gives them a legitimate chance to rebuild.
Anyone who says "Bynum + Gasol" just doesn't understand how the real world works. Money matters, and Dwight packs the house.

Now, if you can convince me that they have a much better offer out there by all means inform me what that is. I see one deal with Oklahoma City that makes about as much sense as ours (Perkins, Ibaka, Westbrook, and Harden + filler for Arenas + Howard + Jameer Nelson). But I don't know if they will do that.

If you think there are other great offers just ready for Orlando to pick off the vine, list them.

[Narf]

There's one more point I should make.
Having a lot of players eat this salary instead of 2 or 3 saves Orlando millions of dollars. They don't have to sign filler players now. It actually saves them a lot.

And it's not that hard to put a couple of deals together to drop salary while picking up a pick or 2 either.