OFFICIAL: Rambis Fired

wiLQ · Post #41 » by **wiLQ** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:44 am

Shem wrote:I'm jealous. The T'Wolves fans have new to talk about! :P
Anyway, your franchise made a good move.

But that's not exactly a positive matter...
did you know that Timberwolves are now NBA leaders in coaches who left early?

Vindicater · Post #42 » by **Vindicater** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 11:57 am

Krapinsky wrote:Some vindication for vindicater.

Post #43 » by **C.lupus** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:07 pm

wiLQ wrote:
Shem wrote:I'm jealous. The T'Wolves fans have new to talk about!
Anyway, your franchise made a good move.

But that's not exactly a positive matter...
did you know that Timberwolves are now NBA leaders in coaches who left early?

Woohooo! We're number one. We're number one.

southern wolf · Post #44 » by **southern wolf** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 1:19 pm

kiwi_adam wrote:the talent pool seems to be sucked pretty dry in north america...any euro coaches who might translate well/get consideration - it's getting bad when you're considering euro coaches

I don't know, there's still plenty of quality coaches available like Adelman, Frank, Mitchell, Bickerstaff, Nelson etc. Whether or not they'd agree to coach in Minny is another question.

cpfsf · Post #45 » by **cpfsf** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 2:51 pm

C.lupus wrote:
wiLQ wrote:
Shem wrote:I'm jealous. The T'Wolves fans have new to talk about!
Anyway, your franchise made a good move.

But that's not exactly a positive matter...
did you know that Timberwolves are now NBA leaders in coaches who left early?

Woohooo! We're number one. We're number one.

Your holding up the wrong finger.

AQuintus · Post #46 » by **AQuintus** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:41 pm

A somewhat interesting article on the other side of the firing debacle: http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_18461789?nclick_check=1&_requestid=7442166

Brief Summary:

Basically, Kahn didn't want to fire Rambis, but did want him to change his approach to coaching (being more active, motivating more, etc). Kahn wanted Rambis to write a report on how he would change his coaching style, issuing the assignment on a Monday and expecting it by that Friday. The report didn't come in for several weeks, which extended the firing process greatly.

kingrory · Post #47 » by **kingrory** » Wed Jul 13, 2011 10:48 pm

http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/125460648.html
Zgoda seems to try and like the Wolves...
Other writers for the Trib not so much. If the explanation of Rambis procrastinating to complete the report is true, this writer sounds incredibly sensationalist and ignorant.

p.s. Hi, I'm new here.

Breakdown777 · Post #48 » by **Breakdown777** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 3:52 am

kingrory wrote:http://www.startribune.com/sports/wolves/125460648.html
Zgoda seems to try and like the Wolves...
Other writers for the Trib not so much. If the explanation of Rambis procrastinating to complete the report is true, this writer sounds incredibly sensationalist and ignorant.

p.s. Hi, I'm new here.

Welcome. Cool Sig!

eyeteeth · Post #49 » by **eyeteeth** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:16 pm

AQuintus wrote:A somewhat interesting article on the other side of the firing debacle: http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_18461789?nclick_check=1&_requestid=7442166

Brief Summary:

Basically, Kahn didn't want to fire Rambis, but did want him to change his approach to coaching (being more active, motivating more, etc). Kahn wanted Rambis to write a report on how he would change his coaching style, issuing the assignment on a Monday and expecting it by that Friday. The report didn't come in for several weeks, which extended the firing process greatly.

This sounds very believable. Really kind of shows Rambis is the schmuck here. Too bad Kahn will wear it like one more albatross as far as the national press corps is concerned.

Post #50 » by **Worm Guts** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 7:28 pm

The article makes Rambis look worse, but I'm not sure it makes Kahn look any better.

funkatron101 · Post #51 » by **funkatron101** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:05 pm

Worm Guts wrote:The article makes Rambis look worse, but I'm not sure it makes Kahn look any better.

When 90% of the media makes scathing remarks about Kahn at any moment that they can, ambivalence is considered a positive. :lol:

Foye · Post #52 » by **Foye** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:33 pm

eyeteeth wrote:
AQuintus wrote:A somewhat interesting article on the other side of the firing debacle: http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_18461789?nclick_check=1&_requestid=7442166

Brief Summary:

Basically, Kahn didn't want to fire Rambis, but did want him to change his approach to coaching (being more active, motivating more, etc). Kahn wanted Rambis to write a report on how he would change his coaching style, issuing the assignment on a Monday and expecting it by that Friday. The report didn't come in for several weeks, which extended the firing process greatly.

This sounds very believable. Really kind of shows Rambis is the schmuck here. Too bad Kahn will wear it like one more albatross as far as the national press corps is concerned.

If that's what led to Rambis being fired then I'm glad he asked him to make a report.

Post #53 » by **revprodeji** » Thu Jul 14, 2011 8:42 pm

Kahn will be judged on W-L and nothing else. The media has simple scripts to rip on KAHHHN right now because they can do it with our record. If we start winning, things change and hopefully he is more concerned about that right now.

I am still convinced he does not know what he is doing.

cpfsf · Post #54 » by **cpfsf** » Fri Jul 15, 2011 12:28 am

I might be wrong, but I think every coach has been fired.

shangrila · Post #55 » by **shangrila** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 3:40 am

cpfsf wrote:I might be wrong, but I think every coach has been fired.

Phil Jackson? Larry Brown, maybe?

cpfsf · Post #56 » by **cpfsf** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 4:51 am

shangrila wrote:
cpfsf wrote:I might be wrong, but I think every coach has been fired.

Phil Jackson? Larry Brown, maybe?

I mean from Minnesota.

Steve_Holiday · Post #57 » by **Steve_Holiday** » Sat Jul 16, 2011 10:51 pm

it doesn't matter what the excuses are, the whole process ended up being a complete joke. because of the way rambis was fired, the wolves missed out on several coaching candidates. even if rambis was the problem, it's still evident to potential hires that kahn is a pain to work with and he will hang his coach out to dry to the media.

JMillott · Post #58 » by **JMillott** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 1:37 am

Spending six hours during the draft process getting input from a coach who isn't going to be around doesn't seem to me like a good idea. Hell it sounds worse then not having a coach and or system in place going into the draft process so that you can draft a player that makes sense.

The biggest reason why i'm not behind Kahn has little to do with the personel moves he has made on there own but when he is constantly putting in the context of wanting to be a fast breaking team at both ends and then you look at the guys he has brought in as president and really none of them are up tempo players outside of Rubio.

It still looks like Wesley Johnson is the SG, he isn't what i'd call an up tempo SG by any means. Sure he can run the floor and finish but a running team should have quality ball handlers at multiple positions.

The same goes for either Beasley, Williams, Webster or Hayward at the SF spot not one of them brings above average ball handling for the position to the table, heck not a one of them is really even average in that respect.

Love is the foundation of the franchise and he sure as hell isn't built for up tempo basketball at either end of the floor at PF. As a center he makes sense playing up tempo but the pressence of Darko and Pekovic on sizeable contracts doesn't. If they pair him with Randolph and lie so Love can be listed at PF as the Spurs do with Duncan then I guess that makes sense.

At the end of the day even though Rubio should fix much of this they still are going to need at least one wing player who provides above average ball handling skills in my opinion. Heck I firmly believe you need one above average ball handler on the wings to play winning basketball at any pace, the PG can't be expected to create at all times.

younggunsmn · Post #59 » by **younggunsmn** » Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:47 am

About time. I think the timing has to do with one of 2 things:
1. Rambis was finally willing to give back $.
2. Taylor was finally able to convince the minority owners to sign off (on the $).

I suspect the latter, and suspect that's what all the pick-selling during the draft was about.
Kahn is playing the good soldier and taking the PR hit for the decision-making process of the owners.
A lot of us forget Kahn is making decisions with Taylor & Co's $ and is bound to their final decision on matters like this. It looks bad if you are the media or a fan, but if you are an owner looking at your GM, Kahn handled it like you would want. Kind of like when McHale took the hit for the Joe Smith thing, that bought a lot of loyalty from Taylor.

I'm not gonna lose any sleep over any of the coaches that signed while we were waiting to fire Rambis. I'm curious what Theus and Laimbeer's status would be, if they will be axed to and if they are still under contract. It was interesting to get confirmation Kahn spoke to Rambis about moving to the front office as I suggested around lottery time (IE make him Assistant GM/scout for eastern Siberia). Perhaps if Kahn threatened this (and could contractually do it), it was enough to force Rambis to give back $ in a buyout.

Vindicater · Post #60 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:04 pm

I am still so happy to see this thread title every time I click on the Wolves board!