Where Khan Messed up..No deadly 3pt shooters

[Esohny]

And Klomp comes off the top rope with an elbow drop!

Seriously the idea that the Wolves don't have enough 3pt shooters is ridiculous. Their percentages show they can definitely shoot the three. The number they make shows the offense they ran didn't provide them the opportunties.

Clearly this comes back to the system and coaching.

If your statement is that the Wolves need to make more threes to to be successful, then the complaint should be that "Khan" messed up by hiring the wrong coach who put in a faulty offense that didn't provide the opportunity for the Wolves' great shooters to knock down more threes.

Faulty logic original poster, faulty logic.

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Enthusiastic.

[horaceworthy]

Not to pile on the OP even more, as most of his post has been roundly debunked, but Kahn has never stated he wished to emulate the SSOL offense. The teams he's brought up most often are Adelman's Sacramento teams.

3 point shooting by the Kings under Adelman

1998-99- 290 made, 30.8% shooting (50 game season)

1999-2000- 534 made, 32.2% shooting

2000-01- 479 made, 35.4% shooting

2001-02- 426 made, 36.7% shooting

2002-03- 491 made, 38.1% shooting

2003-04- 601 made, 40.1% shooting

2004-05- 522 made, 37.4% shooting

2005-06- 494 made, 35.1% shooting

Only one of those teams (03-04) made more threes than last years Wolves, and only two (02-03, 03-04) shot a higher percentage than them.

There are many valid criticisms of Kahn. Failing to compile 3 point shooters is not one of them. How many teams have two power forwards who shot above 40% from beyond the arc (Love and Tolliver), and another who will see time at the position who just shot nearly 57% from beyond the line in college. I have no idea why people feel the need to fabricate knocks on Kahn when there's a pile of legitimate knocks readily available.

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We also didn't play near the pace of uptempo transition ball that those teams played.

Actually the Wolves had the highest Pace of any team in the league last year. Numero uno.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/MIN/2011.html

1565 (3PA)/7014(FGA) 22% of the Wolves shots came from three point attempts.

Compared to San Antionio (14th in pace), 1727/6628 = 26% of their FGA were 3 pointers

Read what I wrote again. I was referring to the transition game.

Maybe better, can the players in Minnesota play well in Minnesota’s style.

Our first instinct is to say no, especially considering that they had the fastest pace in the league (96.5 possessions per game, according to Basketball Reference), but only posted the 24th highest offensive rating(104.2 points per 100 possessions). However, looking at the numbers, the Timberwolves didn’t actually get out in transition as much as you would original believe. According to Synergy Sports, transition possessions made up 10.7% of Minnesota’s offense, a number that was good for 23rd in the NBA. So how was their pace so high? Bad shots early in the clock and turnovers.

http://nbaplaybook.com/2011/07/18/the-m ... lt-to-run/

Good Stuff Klomp. I stand corrected.

[Busch Legion]

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[Foye]

I don't believe the hype about Williams 3pt shot.

He didn't have enough attemps, IMO. He'll turn out as a solid 3-pt shooter but not a great one. Maybe a bit better than Beasley.

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But it's scientifically-proven

[Klomp]

I don't believe the hype about Williams 3pt shot.

He didn't have enough attemps, IMO. He'll turn out as a solid 3-pt shooter but not a great one. Maybe a bit better than Beasley.

Beasley NCAA: 36-95 (37.9%)
Beasley NBA: 60-164 (36.6%)

Williams NCAA: 42-74 (56.8%)

You really think he'll drop 20%? I'm not saying he'll stay where he's at, but I don't think he'll drop that far.

[cpfsf]

I don't believe the hype about Williams 3pt shot.

He didn't have enough attemps, IMO. He'll turn out as a solid 3-pt shooter but not a great one. Maybe a bit better than Beasley.

Beasley NCAA: 36-95 (37.9%)
Beasley NBA: 60-164 (36.6%)

Williams NCAA: 42-74 (56.8%)

You really think he'll drop 20%? I'm not saying he'll stay where he's at, but I don't think he'll drop that far.

We overate his long range abilities just a bit. I think everyone can agree that his numbers are going to come a bit more down to earth. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy because nobody really has the same skill set as Williams, but we're working with a small sample size and I just don't see him getting a lot of opportunities at the 3 point line.

[Foye]

I don't believe the hype about Williams 3pt shot.

He didn't have enough attemps, IMO. He'll turn out as a solid 3-pt shooter but not a great one. Maybe a bit better than Beasley.

Beasley NCAA: 36-95 (37.9%)
Beasley NBA: 60-164 (36.6%)

Williams NCAA: 42-74 (56.8%)

You really think he'll drop 20%? I'm not saying he'll stay where he's at, but I don't think he'll drop that far.

Well 74 attempts is only a small number of attempts. If he starts shooting the 3 more often his numbers will certainly go down a lot. 40% would be great, IMO.

[Worm Guts]

57 percent is a crazy number, it's almost a given it will go down. If he can hit at 40 percent that will be great.

[john2jer]

The best 3pt% ever in one season was Kyle Korver 2 years ago shooting 53.6%. No way is Derrick Williams going to shoot anywhere near 56.8%. As has been said, above 40% would be phenomenal. And I'm a HUGE Williams fan. I follow him on Twitter, I know what he had for breakfast...

But seriously, dude tweets way too often.

[Yes We Kahn]

You guys are missing the fact that he improved by 32% (25% to 57%) from his 1st season to his 2nd. I think its realistic to assume he'll make a similar jump next year. Somewhere around 85-90%. Who cares if he only took 16 attempts his 1st year? Its all about percentages.

[C.lupus]

You guys are missing the fact that he improved by 32% (25% to 57%) from his 1st season to his 2nd. I think its realistic to assume he'll make a similar jump next year. Somewhere around 85-90%. Who cares if he only took 16 attempts his 1st year? Its all about percentages.

He hit 90% from NBA distance in that sports science video so there you go.

[cpfsf]

I don't think this is our biggest issue, but was there really a deadly 3 point shooter we could realistically pick up? Don't say in the draft.

[Klomp]

Khan wants to follow in the foot steps of the great seven seconds or less Suns teams, that got up and down the court..ran the ball and IMPORTANTLY knocked down the 3.

Steve Nash has always been surrounded by guys who could drain the outside shot. In their heyday the Suns were knocking down around 800 three pointers per year at a clip of around 40%..Outstanding shooting.

Unfortunately, this Wolves roster is not made for that kind of output. The Wolves only made 589 3 pointers last year..at 37%...

As a comparison, during Adelman's tenure in Sacramento, their highest total was 601 made threes at 40%.