Chris Kaman

[shangrila]

Is this the same list that has JJ Barea at 92 and rookies that have never played an NBA game in it?

[eyeteeth]

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Those are the games played for Kaman over the last 4 seasons. That makes me a lot less interested all on its own. Otherwise he's an average talent with good bulk who knows how to play basketball. I dunno, I'd rather see the Bogut Gambit.

I also think it's fair to argue that we really don't know what we have with Pek or Randolph given the atrocious inflexibility in Rambis' coaching philosophy. Either one could make great strides next year. Now, that's not the same as Kaman. Kaman already knows how to play center in the NBA. If he was healthy, he could be a solid veteran player at a position of need. But I don't think he would stay healthy. So even if we got him, we probably wouldn't have him for half the season.

[Saltine]

Yep, he is fine. But you don't pay guys who are okay starters 12 million a year, especially when they miss 40% of the games... at 29 he isn't going to get any better, and his defense isn't anything remotely special.
Though he was MAC Player of the year in 2003, so that's something to hang his hat on.

I'd rather see what Pek and Randolph can do for half the price.
Bogut is worth 12 or 15 million a year, no doubt, but Kaman???

'upgrading' to mediocre isn't a great long term plan, or a good use of cash. Besides, Gary Trent was MAC player of the year in 93,94 and 95...
http://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/confe ... Historical

[Esohny]

Yep, he is fine. But you don't pay guys who are okay starters 12 million a year, especially when they miss 40% of the games... at 29 he isn't going to get any better, and his defense isn't anything remotely special.
Though he was MAC Player of the year in 2003, so that's something to hang his hat on.

I'd rather see what Pek and Randolph can do for half the price.
Bogut is worth 12 or 15 million a year, no doubt, but Kaman???

'upgrading' to mediocre isn't a great long term plan, or a good use of cash. Besides, Gary Trent was MAC player of the year in 93,94 and 95...
http://basketball.realgm.com/ncaa/confe ... Historical

I don't know that Bogut is worth nearly 12-15 million, not with his injury history and the expected CBA changes. But that does reinforce your point on Kaman being absurd at 12 million.

[Foye]

Kaman would be a horrible pick up for anything above the MLE, IMO.

[Saltine]

Kaman would be a horrible pick up for anything above the MLE, IMO.

Yep, that's what I think as well. 6 million maybe worth it, but 12 is just wrong....

[Krapinsky]

It's $12M for one year. Therein lies little risk.

He could prove to be worth $5M, or if he's healthy and a 15-10 player again, he could be worth the $12M.

[shangrila]

Or he could, like last time, play well enough in a contract year to get overpaid and then kind of suck for the next several years.

[Narf]

It's $12M for one year. Therein lies little risk.

He could prove to be worth $5M, or if he's healthy and a 15-10 player again, he could be worth the $12M.

Which is a fine reason to trade junk/bench players for him. But I don't think giving up Randolph makes sense for for a 1 year rental of an above average center who's pushing 30.

Pekovic, Webster, and Ellington (instead of Randolph) would fit in nicely on the Clippers. Webster starts, Ellington is a 3 point shooter off the bench and Pekovic is a backup beefy center. Assuming, of course, they resign DeAndre Jordan to be their center of the future next to Griffin. Maybe you're not as high on Randolph as others (some are higher than me even) but that's my hangup in this. I don't mind trading for Kaman, I just don't want to trade a good building block for him and think Randolph could become an elite defensive PF with good offense (as his ceiling).