BOS-HOU-MIN (playing with Rondo rumor)

[urinesane]

Pek is an efficient post scorer with average defense that is improving.

Beas is an inefficient scorer with average defense (to be nice).

Yet ... we want hand Beas another year to just see more, but willing to dump Pekovic ... AR yes, but this board generally has an extremely low value for an inside scoring presence @ a measley $5 million. Pek got hosed under Rambis and just needs time with a good coach that can manage a team with consistency.

Beas (to date) is a proven chump looking for his next contract, so it'll be interesting to see how he moves forward under Adelman ... this coaching change might be his best chance to mature and cash in or he will quickly play his way out of here by the deadline.

You don't know what you're talking about. Beasley has elite offensive abilities, Pek has a decent low post game, that's it.

Also Beasley has had nothing but a good attitude here and still people hate on him.

You're willing to give Pek a chance with a new coach, but not Beasley? Beasley's floor is higher than Pek's ceiling.

[Torcher]

You don't know what you're talking about. Beasley has elite offensive abilities, Pek has a decent low post game, that's it.

Also Beasley has had nothing but a good attitude here and still people hate on him.

You're willing to give Pek a chance with a new coach, but not Beasley? Beasley's floor is higher than Pek's ceiling.

Indeed, I don't fully understand the Beasley hate around here. He's not as inefficient as many people describe him as and has gotten us out of clutch situations in a game multiple times. Sure, the kid has made some poor choices in his life, but it's what you learn from those choices that make who you are. We'll see how Beasley handles it, but for now, I say don't trade him.

[Narf]

I don't think I want to trade value for Martin with his contract. I think Beasley will be worth more at the trade deadline than he is now, and would prefer to wait to trade him and snag someone better. I would trade that package for Iggy but not for Martin (or Ellis, who's scoring efficiency is Beasleyesque except for 1 fluke year 4 years ago).

[moss_is_1]

I've cooled on trading for Martin. I'd like to see what Beasley can do under Adelman since he's younger and hopefully Wes can be our SGOTF.

[shrink]

Trade Board was nearly unanimous that the Wolves shouldn't get the pick, but I don't think Kahn will inherit Kevin Martin's contract without incentive, especially at the cost of Beasley.

[Yes We Kahn]

You don't know what you're talking about. Beasley has elite offensive abilities, Pek has a decent low post game, that's it.

Also Beasley has had nothing but a good attitude here and still people hate on him.

You're willing to give Pek a chance with a new coach, but not Beasley? Beasley's floor is higher than Pek's ceiling.

Indeed, I don't fully understand the Beasley hate around here. He's not as inefficient as many people describe him as and has gotten us out of clutch situations in a game multiple times. Sure, the kid has made some poor choices in his life, but it's what you learn from those choices that make who you are. We'll see how Beasley handles it, but for now, I say don't trade him.

I'm with you guys. Some people totally over-exaggerate his limitations and completely ignore his positives. On top of it, they don't see the impact Adelman could have on his game. Claiming they'd rather have Pek than Beas is so absurd I don't even feel like commenting any further on it. Obviously Beas makes some poor choices with the basketball, but he also does things that no one who has ever worn a Wolves jersey could do. He'll have some rough spots such as the last preseason game, but he's young and still has the opportunity to learn.

[Dewey]

Pek is an efficient post scorer with average defense that is improving.

Beas is an inefficient scorer with average defense (to be nice).

Yet ... we want hand Beas another year to just see more, but willing to dump Pekovic ... AR yes, but this board generally has an extremely low value for an inside scoring presence @ a measley $5 million. Pek got hosed under Rambis and just needs time with a good coach that can manage a team with consistency.

Beas (to date) is a proven chump looking for his next contract, so it'll be interesting to see how he moves forward under Adelman ... this coaching change might be his best chance to mature and cash in or he will quickly play his way out of here by the deadline.

You don't know what you're talking about. Beasley has elite offensive abilities, Pek has a decent low post game, that's it.

Also Beasley has had nothing but a good attitude here and still people hate on him.

You're willing to give Pek a chance with a new coach, but not Beasley? Beasley's floor is higher than Pek's ceiling.

Based on what? your opinion? Your making your own conclusions to my post to suit your bias stance. You are an idiot. Take off the goggles ... let the chump play. As I said Adelman is his chance to get his act together. Not to complicated but I can spell it out if necessary...

[Narf]

Based on what? your opinion? Your making your own conclusions to my post to suit your bias stance. You are an idiot. Take off the goggles ... let the chump play. As I said Adelman is his chance to get his act together. Not to complicated but I can spell it out if necessary...

I can't be the only one to notice this.

As big of a Pekovic guy as I am, Beasley is starting and Pekovic is playing 12 minutes off the bench. Beasley has a high ceiling and a lot of talent, Adelman wouldn't play him otherwise....right? I don't think being benched for Darko is exactly a stellar endorsement.

I think Pekovic is as likely as not to be a .600+ TS% post scorer who is average all around outside of scoring, giving him a lot of value. And I agree he is better than salary filler. But I don't think he has more basketball value than Beasley, who by all accounts is well liked by the entire team and in no way a cancer.

[Dewey]

As big of a Pekovic guy as I am, Beasley is starting and Pekovic is playing 12 minutes off the bench. Beasley has a high ceiling and a lot of talent, Adelman wouldn't play him otherwise....right? I don't think being benched for Darko is exactly a stellar endorsement.

I think Pekovic is as likely as not to be a .600+ TS% post scorer who is average all around outside of scoring, giving him a lot of value. And I agree he is better than salary filler. But I don't think he has more basketball value than Beasley, who by all accounts is well liked by the entire team and in no way a cancer.

I'm curious as heck to see which path Adelman takes with Beas ... play him a ton early and give him the rope to hang himself - or be a little short on his minutes to motivate. Biggest issue for Beas is understanding the difference between "earning and deserving".

As for Pek, I'm not comparing these two, but pointing out he's decent value. Pek and Beas are average at best defenders. Pek is offensively efficient - Beas is not. Beas plays 3x-4x more than Pek due to assumed potential. If there's 10 seconds on the clock and down 1, I dump it into Pek anytime versus Beas ... he'll get a better shot off and/or better odds getting to the line. Plain and simple Beas is not a go to guy right now in this league but thinks he is and will expect to be paid like it.

[Esohny]

To be fair though, Pekovic doesn't just play so little in comparison to Beasley because of perceived potential. I'd say that a major factor is the fact that he's even worse than Beasley with the boneheaded fouls and turnovers due to 3 second calls, moving screens, etc. Pek takes himself off the floor a lot of the time.