J Rose: Don't be surprised if Ricky misses all next season

[Yes We Kahn]

I think I'll trust Dr. Steadman over Jalen Rose on this.

Wait, listening to a doctor over an espn analyst? Nonsense.

Rose is right, though.

Shaun Livingston never ever came back healthy with the same injury.

Tearing a PCL is a completely different beast. First of all, the surgical technique is not nearly as refined as it is much rarer than an ACL tear. Second of all, you pretty much can't work on your hamstring strength for 2-3 months in order to protect the new ligament. And third, he injured both his ACL and PCL.

[Raptor_Claw]

I just saw where Vasilopoulos (European player) just came back to the court from the same injury Rubio had. He was out 14 months time from the injury and 13 months time from the surgery. As far as I know this is the most recent player to have the same injury and so the most recent example of the same surgery.

So, if this is a good comparison, it was 13 months time. I'm not sure though, how to directly compare it because Rubio weighs a lot less, which puts less stress on the knee, and he is younger, which should improve recovery time. On the other hand, Vasilopoulos is a lot more athletic and a lot more muscular than Rubio is, which should also in theory help the recovery time.

So, it's not an exact comparison. But the most recent example of a pro player with the same injury and the same surgery, and it was 13 months time after the surgery date before he played in a game.

Vasilopoulos was cleared to train and practice 8 months after his surgery, but he didn't get into a game until 13 months out from the surgery. So, I'm not sure if this was his team being extra cautious or what. However, they did say that he had pain in his knee after just playing his first game (13 months after the surgery).

So apparently, this injury can be quite serious and hard to come back from. But maybe Vasilopoulos' injury in particular was more severe. I don't really know the specific details of either player's exact injury. But I think it is a better comparison than Welker, since it is the same sport.

[moss_is_1]

I think what might be the case is that Rubio won't be 100% back to where he was physically for another year, which still probably isn't true nowadays.

With how good Doctors are now, most of the time these guys came back even better then before from major injuries. It's not a death sentence like it was back in the day, even microfracture surgerys people make full recoveries from now.

[SO_MONEY]

In my first knee injury I tore my ACL and broke the bone that attaches the ACL to the knee-cap (or whatever). I was cleared to play full-contact 5 months later. It all depends on the individual. Myself I was young and stupid, didn't take rehab seriously (beyond getting back on the court) and as a result I was never the same, Rubio shouldn't have that problem and he likely won't rush back like I did either so 6-9 months seems like a reasonable time-frame.