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In defense of Rambis

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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#21 » by LordBaldric » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:08 pm

**** Rambis and **** Kahn.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#22 » by Vindicater » Wed Apr 11, 2012 10:51 pm

LordBaldric wrote:**** Rambis and **** Kahn.


I agree.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#23 » by cpfsf » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:01 am

.286 w/o Rubio

Despite what you might think, I’m actually not jumping in excitement for every loss in the hopes that it will offer some legitimacy to this thread. Right now I’m just looking at the team’s history, and I’ve noticed that the team has had 10 coaches since the 1989/10 season. That’s 10 coaches in 23 seasons. That number is a little bit more astonishing if you remove Flip Saunders from that list. The teams he coached by the way had just a little bit more firepower. It’s just easier to replace the coach than the team. Well, if you think Rambis was really that bad, maybe you should thank him for increasing Minnesota’s 2012 lottery chances.

Worm Guts wrote:Maybe you were. I didn't mind the trade, but I hated the contract. Kahn may have been the one to offer the contract, but I think Rambis had a say in it. And Rambis was the one who decided it was good idea to run the offense through him.


Tony Ronzone probably had a say in all of this too, but it was still Kahn’s responsibility.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#24 » by shangrila » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:18 am

There is no defence for Rambis, no matter how bad this team is playing.

He ran an offence through Darko freaking Milicic despite the fact it very clearly WASN'T WORKING. He made no attempt to change up his defence, despite the Wolves getting killed by the same things all year, and when someone called him on it he reacted like the arrogant tool that he is. He's just a pathetic coach.

And as far as comparing records sans Rubio, let's not forget we're in a condensed schedule where Pek, Ridnour and a few others have all missed significant time, not to mention the emotional beatdown that took place when Rubio hit the floor.

I don't even know why I'm responding to this. This thread should not exist in any way, shape or form. It's making my head hurt just thinking about it. Ugh.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#25 » by Tirion » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:22 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
Klomp wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:Rambis wasn't helping things out, but after seeing this team post-Rubio, its probably safe to say very few coaches are going to be doing much winning with this roster.

So instead of having one of the best coaches of all-time, you'd rather go back to one of the worst coaches of all-time?


Yes that's exactly what I implied. Though Rambis wasn't helping things out, most of the problem is the roster, so logically we should fire Adelman and re-hire Rambis.


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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#26 » by VUK1 » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:35 am

Surely at the very least rambis shouldve noticed in practice that Pek>Darko?

There is no excuse for this....

Although i think the wolves poor record under rambis was slightly worse than reality. What i mean by this was that the wolves lost a huge number of games by 5 or less. but then i guess a loss is a loss.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#27 » by mandurugo » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:16 am

VUK1 wrote:Surely at the very least rambis shouldve noticed in practice that Pek>Darko?

There is no excuse for this....

Although i think the wolves poor record under rambis was slightly worse than reality. What i mean by this was that the wolves lost a huge number of games by 5 or less. but then i guess a loss is a loss.


Rambis seemed to want to run his offense through a passing big man, like it or not Darko was the best passing big man on the team. Plus, without anyone able to consistently get him the ball, Pekovic wasn't better than Darko last year, since he couldn't make up for his defensive mistakes and fouls by his offense.

shangrila wrote:There is no defence for Rambis, no matter how bad this team is playing.

He ran an offence through Darko freaking Milicic despite the fact it very clearly WASN'T WORKING. He made no attempt to change up his defence, despite the Wolves getting killed by the same things all year, and when someone called him on it he reacted like the arrogant tool that he is. He's just a pathetic coach.

And as far as comparing records sans Rubio, let's not forget we're in a condensed schedule where Pek, Ridnour and a few others have all missed significant time, not to mention the emotional beatdown that took place when Rubio hit the floor.


Fair points about it being Rubio plus that went down - but when he went down Adelman tried to run his offense through Kevin Love, which didn't work out too well either.

Well, it is a strange discussion. For whatever reasons, watching the wolves play under Rambis was unpleasant I don't think anyone is missing him.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#28 » by AQuintus » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:43 am

mandurugo wrote:Rambis seemed to want to run his offense through a passing big man, like it or not Darko was the best passing big man on the team.


And this was Rambis' biggest failing as a coach. If your offense runs through a passing big man, and your best passing big man is Darko Milicic, then you need to change your offense!

Rambis inability to coach towards his players' strengths is the reason that he failed here and will continue to fail if he ever gets another head coaching job.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#29 » by mandurugo » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:42 pm

AQuintus wrote:
mandurugo wrote:Rambis seemed to want to run his offense through a passing big man, like it or not Darko was the best passing big man on the team.


And this was Rambis' biggest failing as a coach. If your offense runs through a passing big man, and your best passing big man is Darko Milicic, then you need to change your offense!

Rambis inability to coach towards his players' strengths is the reason that he failed here and will continue to fail if he ever gets another head coaching job.


Yeah, that does sum it up best.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#30 » by eyeteeth » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:24 pm

shangrila wrote:There is no defence for Rambis, no matter how bad this team is playing.

He ran an offence through Darko freaking Milicic despite the fact it very clearly WASN'T WORKING. He made no attempt to change up his defence, despite the Wolves getting killed by the same things all year, and when someone called him on it he reacted like the arrogant tool that he is. He's just a pathetic coach.

And as far as comparing records sans Rubio, let's not forget we're in a condensed schedule where Pek, Ridnour and a few others have all missed significant time, not to mention the emotional beatdown that took place when Rubio hit the floor.

I don't even know why I'm responding to this. This thread should not exist in any way, shape or form. It's making my head hurt just thinking about it. Ugh.

I can't get very worked up about it because it seems pretty obvious to me, but otherwise this is exactly what I would write here.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#31 » by Devilzsidewalk » Sat Apr 14, 2012 9:26 pm

shangrila wrote:There is no defence for Rambis, no matter how bad this team is playing.

He ran an offence through Darko freaking Milicic despite the fact it very clearly WASN'T WORKING. He made no attempt to change up his defence, despite the Wolves getting killed by the same things all year, and when someone called him on it he reacted like the arrogant tool that he is. He's just a pathetic coach.

And as far as comparing records sans Rubio, let's not forget we're in a condensed schedule where Pek, Ridnour and a few others have all missed significant time, not to mention the emotional beatdown that took place when Rubio hit the floor.

I don't even know why I'm responding to this. This thread should not exist in any way, shape or form. It's making my head hurt just thinking about it. Ugh.


oh so you're saying you wish we still had Wittman coaching and wish our starting frontcourt was Al Jefferson/Craig Smith? That is outLANDISH and i cant believe you said that
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#32 » by cpfsf » Sun Apr 15, 2012 12:41 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:
shangrila wrote:There is no defence for Rambis, no matter how bad this team is playing.

He ran an offence through Darko freaking Milicic despite the fact it very clearly WASN'T WORKING. He made no attempt to change up his defence, despite the Wolves getting killed by the same things all year, and when someone called him on it he reacted like the arrogant tool that he is. He's just a pathetic coach.

And as far as comparing records sans Rubio, let's not forget we're in a condensed schedule where Pek, Ridnour and a few others have all missed significant time, not to mention the emotional beatdown that took place when Rubio hit the floor.

I don't even know why I'm responding to this. This thread should not exist in any way, shape or form. It's making my head hurt just thinking about it. Ugh.


oh so you're saying you wish we still had Wittman coaching and wish our starting frontcourt was Al Jefferson/Craig Smith? That is outLANDISH and i cant believe you said that


I'm surprised you're not outraged by his racist remarks. Obviously it only hurts the team when a white man is injured, but the team is just fine when a black man goes down.
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Re: In defense of Rambis 

Post#33 » by BeasleyTheBeast » Sun Apr 15, 2012 2:46 am

Didn't Love ask to be traded because Rambis wasn't giving him playing time?
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