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Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN)

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Post#201 » by jfg » Thu Dec 6, 2012 5:58 am

Lots of overreactions tonight... Mediocre teams don't win the 2nd game of a back to back especially on the road against a good team. Everyone said before the season started that all the Wolves needed to do was tread water until December and now here we are and they are a game below .500 and in the playoff hunt. This is exactly where we expected to be even before Love was injured.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#202 » by Mattya » Thu Dec 6, 2012 6:26 am

jfg wrote:Lots of overreactions tonight... Mediocre teams don't win the 2nd game of a back to back especially on the road against a good team. Everyone said before the season started that all the Wolves needed to do was tread water until December and now here we are and they are a game below .500 and in the playoff hunt. This is exactly where we expected to be even before Love was injured.


It isn't that they lost. It is how they lost. Abysmal FT shooting, from the entire team, again. Very poor defense and our top players aren't playing up to snuff. Pek and Love haven't played well. Love I can give a pass on the FTs because of the hand but his defense was very bad tonight. Pek needs to step up. He is missing bunnies at the rim. Rubio can only do so much with creating an open look, Pek will need to start finishing his shots. We are lucky we have had Adelman, AK47, and Shved this season.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#203 » by southern wolf » Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:02 am

Devilzsidewalk wrote:man those shot charts are brutal
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart ... =400277979

Boston has a nice healthy mix of midrange, outside, and inside shots, but we're all threes and in the paint.


Ours reminds me of when I play 2K13, but not quite as extreme. Just a blur of shots around the rim and three pointers spread around the ark.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#204 » by Foye » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:32 am

Mattya wrote:
jfg wrote:Lots of overreactions tonight... Mediocre teams don't win the 2nd game of a back to back especially on the road against a good team. Everyone said before the season started that all the Wolves needed to do was tread water until December and now here we are and they are a game below .500 and in the playoff hunt. This is exactly where we expected to be even before Love was injured.


It isn't that they lost. It is how they lost. Abysmal FT shooting, from the entire team, again. Very poor defense and our top players aren't playing up to snuff. Pek and Love haven't played well. Love I can give a pass on the FTs because of the hand but his defense was very bad tonight. Pek needs to step up. He is missing bunnies at the rim. Rubio can only do so much with creating an open look, Pek will need to start finishing his shots. We are lucky we have had Adelman, AK47, and Shved this season.


Lets not overreact. We split an away b2b against EC playoff teams which is good imo. We just need to coast a few more games on the .500 mark until Love is.back 100%. Love looks.really bad right now on the court. Once hes 100%and Ak47 back we'll be able to go on.a winning.streak. I got.no doubt about that.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#205 » by Foye » Thu Dec 6, 2012 10:35 am

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Devilzsidewalk wrote:man those shot charts are brutal
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/shotchart ... =400277979

Boston has a nice healthy mix of midrange, outside, and inside shots, but we're all threes and in the paint.


Ours reminds me of when I play 2K13, but not quite as extreme. Just a blur of shots around the rim and three pointers spread around the ark.


Yeah we were throwing up a lot of prayers from.downtown. Certainly need.to.change that and I think it'll change once the backyard wrestler.starts.to set.guys up.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#206 » by Dual » Thu Dec 6, 2012 11:46 am

wow, our frontcourt was so bad again... i hope Pek starts playing like he should, he cant rely in Rubio's assists to make easy baskets...
Also Love was a disaster, he needs to make those FTS, and also get back his shoting touch, defensively he was atrocius again...
Right now Pek is a 8 millon big, not a max contract, we need him to step up.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#207 » by Basti » Thu Dec 6, 2012 1:01 pm

Love gets an excuse for his free throw shooting. His shooting touch is obviously not back yet so we have to live with that - as frustrating that is. What I am still mad about is that the rest of the team appeared to be so affected by Love's (free throw) shooting woes last night. Even if you look aside Love's free throw shooting we shot, what?, 60% at the line last night? This is inexcusable.

But there's really no excuse for Pek missing so many open and easy looking shots at the rim. At times he looks like last year's Pek but he's so inconsistent it's not even funny.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#208 » by C.lupus » Thu Dec 6, 2012 3:30 pm

I don't think Pek's ankles are 100% healthy. He hasn't looked 100% all season. He's just a half step slow with his moves. Love's hand is definitely bothering himm too. I think both will be fine as time goes on.

What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#209 » by jfg » Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:32 pm

C.lupus wrote:What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.


Even though Rubio is one of the best playmakers in the league, it is surprising that when he went down and continuing into this year, ball movement is non-existent. The weird thing is that unlike last year we don't have a ball-stopper like Beasley. Even D-Will isn't stopping the ball as much as he did last year. All the plays are drawn up to go to the post and then kick it back out for a three or a long two if the shot isn't there. It's really strange how losing Rubio completely changes the playbook. Just because we don't have a playmaker right now doesn't mean the ball shouldn't move around.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#210 » by Klomp » Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:36 pm

jfg wrote:
C.lupus wrote:What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.


Even though Rubio is one of the best playmakers in the league, it is surprising that when he went down and continuing into this year, ball movement is non-existent. The weird thing is that unlike last year we don't have a ball-stopper like Beasley. Even D-Will isn't stopping the ball as much as he did last year. All the plays are drawn up to go to the post and then kick it back out for a three or a long two if the shot isn't there. It's really strange how losing Rubio completely changes the playbook. Just because we don't have a playmaker right now doesn't mean the ball shouldn't move around.

We are trying too hard to get Pekovic involved.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#211 » by NewWolvesOrder » Thu Dec 6, 2012 7:39 pm

jfg wrote:
C.lupus wrote:What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.


Even though Rubio is one of the best playmakers in the league, it is surprising that when he went down and continuing into this year, ball movement is non-existent. The weird thing is that unlike last year we don't have a ball-stopper like Beasley. Even D-Will isn't stopping the ball as much as he did last year. All the plays are drawn up to go to the post and then kick it back out for a three or a long two if the shot isn't there. It's really strange how losing Rubio completely changes the playbook. Just because we don't have a playmaker right now doesn't mean the ball shouldn't move around.


We moved the ball much better when Love was out and Kirilenko was the focal guy. So i guess Love took Beasley's spot. I also saw that Shved played well with AK, DC & Pek. But I don't see him connecting with Love for some reason.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#212 » by Krapinsky » Thu Dec 6, 2012 8:17 pm

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C.lupus wrote:What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.


Even though Rubio is one of the best playmakers in the league, it is surprising that when he went down and continuing into this year, ball movement is non-existent. The weird thing is that unlike last year we don't have a ball-stopper like Beasley. Even D-Will isn't stopping the ball as much as he did last year. All the plays are drawn up to go to the post and then kick it back out for a three or a long two if the shot isn't there. It's really strange how losing Rubio completely changes the playbook. Just because we don't have a playmaker right now doesn't mean the ball shouldn't move around.


We moved the ball much better when Love was out and Kirilenko was the focal guy. So i guess Love took Beasley's spot. I also saw that Shved played well with AK, DC & Pek. But I don't see him connecting with Love for some reason.


Love's been a ball stopper and none of his go to moves are working right now.
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#213 » by Murphs56 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:00 pm

Luke might be the worst playmaking point guard I have ever seen. He's that bad. Additionally, he also might be the worst point guard getting around screens I have ever seen. He can hit his shot from time to time though
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Re: Game Thread: Will we finally beat Boston? (6:30, FSN) 

Post#214 » by Murphs56 » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:03 pm

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jfg wrote:
C.lupus wrote:What frustrated me the most last night was the team just feeding those two and standing around. It's obvious neither is in game shape so stop stagnating the offense for them. Move the damn ball.


Even though Rubio is one of the best playmakers in the league, it is surprising that when he went down and continuing into this year, ball movement is non-existent. The weird thing is that unlike last year we don't have a ball-stopper like Beasley. Even D-Will isn't stopping the ball as much as he did last year. All the plays are drawn up to go to the post and then kick it back out for a three or a long two if the shot isn't there. It's really strange how losing Rubio completely changes the playbook. Just because we don't have a playmaker right now doesn't mean the ball shouldn't move around.

We are trying too hard to get Pekovic involved.


Pek's getting the ball in the post but he's getting the ball WAY too far from the basket. He needs to get deeper position
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Post#215 » by NewWolvesOrder » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:48 pm

Klomp wrote:We are trying too hard to get Pekovic involved.


That's just wrong and has some agenda on top of that.
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Post#216 » by NewWolvesOrder » Thu Dec 6, 2012 9:53 pm

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Pek's getting the ball in the post but he's getting the ball WAY too far from the basket. He needs to get deeper position


That's true. But our guards can't execute a timely inside pass when he has a good position. There was a play when Love Pek fed the ball to Pek when the latter had a good deep position on a smaller defender and the result was an easy bucket for Pek. We need more of that and I hope when Rubio returns we will see just that.

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