Wolves-Blazers-Cavs-Celtics

[[RCG]]

MN out: Pekovic, Williams, Ridnour, MN 1st
MN in: Varejao, Matthews

Wolves get their starting SG and get a defensive-minded center who brings a lot of energy and should fit right in with our current guys.

Rubio/Barea
Matthews/Shved
Kirilenko/(Budinger)/Howard
Love/Cunningham
Varejao/Stiemsma

POR out: Matthews, Leonard, future (lotto-protected) 1st
POR in: Pekovic, Lee

Blazers get their starting C next to LMA. They'll have Pek's rights and they've wanted a legit center. They massively upgrade the C position with a downgrade to the 2. There should also be some good SGs in free agency to target, much better than the C class but Lee is serviceable and the overall upgrade is much larger necessitating the inclusion of a future 1st.

Lilliard/Price
Lee/Barton/Pavlovic
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Hickson
Pekovic/Hickson

CLE out: Varejao
CLE in: Leonard, Ridnour, MN 1st, BOS 1st, POR 1st

Cavs cash in on Varejao's career year. Irving will be missing some time and Ridnour is a serviceable starter and great back-up. Leonard can be their long-term center, which they'll be set at for years to come. They nab three 1sts which can be used to add depth or move up and grab a Muhammad/Poythress/Porter type to plug in at SF. Cavs will have a solid young core with cap-flexibility.

(Irving)/Ridnour
Waiters/Gibson
Gee/Casspi
Thompson/Leuer/Samuels
Zeller/Leonard

BOS out: Lee, BOS 1st
BOS in: Williams

Boston sends a non-lotto 1st and Lee, who has fallen behind Bradley and Terry for minutes, to get Williams, who still has a lot of potential and has been playing better as of late. They'll need young guys behind Pierce and Garnett.

Rondo/Bradley
Bradley/Terry/Barbosa
Pierce/Green/Williams
Bass/Williams/Sullinger
Garnett/Collins/Melo

[urinesane]

You took all that time to write this up when you know there is 0% chance of it happening?

[[RCG]]

You took all that time to write this up when you know there is 0% chance of it happening?

Most of it was c&p'd. But if you think about it, there are all these posters on RealGM and do any of their opinions or comments change anything? No. Much like your comment, which provides absolutely no value. All of these posts and threads are simply meant for discussion.

[shrink]

Varejao is playing great right now, but he always seems to get hurt. I think he'd be a nice fit with Adelman though. I wonder how much of a difference in trade value there is with RealGM's between him and Pekovic?

[LordBaldric]

Our starting 2 guard is going to be: Alexey Shved.

[Basti]

We all know the likelihood of this huge trade going down is >1% but if it were to happen I wouldn't actually mind it from a value POV. It hurts giving up Pek because he's among my favorite Wolves but the value is there. I'd like it even more without the 1st rounder, though.

[lewdog]

Varejao is playing great right now, but he always seems to get hurt. I think he'd be a nice fit with Adelman though. I wonder how much of a difference in trade value there is with RealGM's between him and Pekovic?

Most Cleveland posters value Varejao as the next Wilt the Stilt and/or Easy Ed Macauley.
He's almost an untouchable.

Love the pieces (Matthews, Varejao) the Wolves target in this deal. However, don't think Cleveland would be interested. RCG, I'd be interested in the responses on the T&T board.

[shrink]

Varejao is playing great right now, but he always seems to get hurt. I think he'd be a nice fit with Adelman though. I wonder how much of a difference in trade value there is with RealGM's between him and Pekovic?

Most Cleveland posters value Varejao as the next Wilt the Stilt and/or Easy Ed Macauley.
He's almost an untouchable.

Love the pieces (Matthews, Varejao) the Wolves target in this deal. However, don't think Cleveland would be interested. RCG, I'd be interested in the responses on the T&T board.

I agree with you. The Trade Board gets frustrating though because we don't get solid info about CLE because the 2-3 of the loudest voices over-rate their players so badly, and make the fanbase look bad.

[PDX MM]

I am not against the trade as a Blazer fan but thought I would let you know that as of now we can't trade a 1st since we owe the Bobcats a 1st one of these years. I think it isn't until 2020 that we could and as far as I know teams can't trade a 1st more than 5 years out.

[Figjamjr]

MN out: Pekovic, Williams, Ridnour, MN 1st
MN in: Varejao, Matthews

Wolves get their starting SG and get a defensive-minded center who brings a lot of energy and should fit right in with our current guys.

Rubio/Barea
Matthews/Shved
Kirilenko/(Budinger)/Howard
Love/Cunningham
Varejao/Stiemsma

POR out: Matthews, Leonard, future (lotto-protected) 1st
POR in: Pekovic, Lee

Blazers get their starting C next to LMA. They'll have Pek's rights and they've wanted a legit center. They massively upgrade the C position with a downgrade to the 2. There should also be some good SGs in free agency to target, much better than the C class but Lee is serviceable and the overall upgrade is much larger necessitating the inclusion of a future 1st.

Lilliard/Price
Lee/Barton/Pavlovic
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Hickson
Pekovic/Hickson

CLE out: Varejao
CLE in: Leonard, Ridnour, MN 1st, BOS 1st, POR 1st

Cavs cash in on Varejao's career year. Irving will be missing some time and Ridnour is a serviceable starter and great back-up. Leonard can be their long-term center, which they'll be set at for years to come. They nab three 1sts which can be used to add depth or move up and grab a Muhammad/Poythress/Porter type to plug in at SF. Cavs will have a solid young core with cap-flexibility.

(Irving)/Ridnour
Waiters/Gibson
Gee/Casspi
Thompson/Leuer/Samuels
Zeller/Leonard

BOS out: Lee, BOS 1st
BOS in: Williams

Boston sends a non-lotto 1st and Lee, who has fallen behind Bradley and Terry for minutes, to get Williams, who still has a lot of potential and has been playing better as of late. They'll need young guys behind Pierce and Garnett.

Rondo/Bradley
Bradley/Terry/Barbosa
Pierce/Green/Williams
Bass/Williams/Sullinger
Garnett/Collins/Melo

I think that Trade scenario looks really good and pretty fair to all teams except for the Boston part. I agree the Lee looks expendable right now but they don't really need Dwill. Their SF and PF spots are pretty stable imo. They need a good big man just like Portland. I think if they heard of this deal they would want Pek instead of Dwill. Figure out a way to send Dwill to Cleveland and then Varajao to Boston and then you'd have something.

[Figjamjr]

MN out: Pekovic, Williams, Ridnour, MN 1st
MN in: Varejao, Matthews

Wolves get their starting SG and get a defensive-minded center who brings a lot of energy and should fit right in with our current guys.

Rubio/Barea
Matthews/Shved
Kirilenko/(Budinger)/Howard
Love/Cunningham
Varejao/Stiemsma

POR out: Matthews, Leonard, future (lotto-protected) 1st
POR in: Pekovic, Lee

Blazers get their starting C next to LMA. They'll have Pek's rights and they've wanted a legit center. They massively upgrade the C position with a downgrade to the 2. There should also be some good SGs in free agency to target, much better than the C class but Lee is serviceable and the overall upgrade is much larger necessitating the inclusion of a future 1st.

Lilliard/Price
Lee/Barton/Pavlovic
Batum/Claver
Aldridge/Hickson
Pekovic/Hickson

CLE out: Varejao
CLE in: Leonard, Ridnour, MN 1st, BOS 1st, POR 1st

Cavs cash in on Varejao's career year. Irving will be missing some time and Ridnour is a serviceable starter and great back-up. Leonard can be their long-term center, which they'll be set at for years to come. They nab three 1sts which can be used to add depth or move up and grab a Muhammad/Poythress/Porter type to plug in at SF. Cavs will have a solid young core with cap-flexibility.

(Irving)/Ridnour
Waiters/Gibson
Gee/Casspi
Thompson/Leuer/Samuels
Zeller/Leonard

BOS out: Lee, BOS 1st
BOS in: Williams

Boston sends a non-lotto 1st and Lee, who has fallen behind Bradley and Terry for minutes, to get Williams, who still has a lot of potential and has been playing better as of late. They'll need young guys behind Pierce and Garnett.

Rondo/Bradley
Bradley/Terry/Barbosa
Pierce/Green/Williams
Bass/Williams/Sullinger
Garnett/Collins/Melo

I think that Trade scenario looks really good and pretty fair to all teams except for the Boston part. I agree the Lee looks expendable right now but they don't really need Dwill. Their SF and PF spots are pretty stable imo. They need a good big man just like Portland. I think if they heard of this deal they would want Pek instead of Dwill. Figure out a way to send Dwill to Cleveland and then Varajao to Boston and then you'd have something.

Opps! I forgot Varajao was coming to us LOL. well you get my point. If Varajao goes to Boston, we would need to find a way to add Phoenix to the mix so we could get Gortat.

[[RCG]]

Our starting 2 guard is going to be: Alexey Shved.

I think Shved fits his role nicely off the bench as a playmaker for the second unit. I think Rubio and Kirilenko give us enough of what Shved does with the first unit already that Shved's potential is maximized by keeping him as a 6th man of sorts.

[NewWolves]

Our starting 2 guard is going to be: Alexey Shved.

I think Shved fits his role nicely off the bench as a playmaker for the second unit. I think Rubio and Kirilenko give us enough of what Shved does with the first unit already that Shved's potential is maximized by keeping him as a 6th man of sorts.

^ This. Plus when you play him along with JJ, teams finds it harder to adjust to both player driving into the basket. Of course...if Shved's having a good night, he should also finish the game with Rubio.

[shrink]

Our starting 2 guard is going to be: Alexey Shved.

I think Shved fits his role nicely off the bench as a playmaker for the second unit. I think Rubio and Kirilenko give us enough of what Shved does with the first unit already that Shved's potential is maximized by keeping him as a 6th man of sorts.

^ This. Plus when you play him along with JJ, teams finds it harder to adjust to both player driving into the basket. Of course...if Shved's having a good night, he should also finish the game with Rubio.

I've come to this conclusion as well. I know Kahn and Adelman have talked about how good it would be to have them both on the court at the same time, and yeah that will be great .. in crunch time in the fourth quarter. In the meantime, how would you like to be the team that defends 48 minutes of Rubio-esque passing? And Shved is good enough at so many different things, that I think he's a terrific fit helping limited players in the second unit.

The luxury of Shved as our sixth man? It's starting to make me drool.

[Effigy]

I don't think Portland would consider this. We already owe one future first to Charlotte. Doubt we're going to trade another one until that's paid, and definately not for this package.

And holy cow do the Cavs get a lot back for Varajo! Are you sure that's not the asking price for Lebron? 3 First round picks and a young center drafted in the lottery this year who's playing well? Wow!

[[RCG]]

I don't think Portland would consider this. We already owe one future first to Charlotte. Doubt we're going to trade another one until that's paid, and definately not for this package.

And holy cow do the Cavs get a lot back for Varajo! Are you sure that's not the asking price for Lebron? 3 First round picks and a young center drafted in the lottery this year who's playing well? Wow!

3 non-lotto picks. Not a particularly strong coming up but thanks for the input!

[Jack wore plaid]

I think Portland would take their chances of signing Pek this summer, rather than trade yet another 1st.

[shrink]

And holy cow do the Cavs get a lot back for Varejao! Are you sure that's not the asking price for Lebron? 3 First round picks and a young center drafted in the lottery this year who's playing well? Wow!

I agree. With Varejao's continual history of injury, I think if they get a fine deal if it's Leonard, expirings, and a pick.

Truth be told, I'm watching how this plays on the Trade Board. In a land where many over-value their own assets, the loudest CLE posters seem to be the king. We've only had one go on the record so far, and he said he thinks that POR is the only one that happily accepts this deal -- not CLE.