True or False?

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A GM should make all player-personnel decisions instead of a coach, because a GM can make longterm decisions for the franchise, and the coach's scope is "right now."

[Worm Guts]

I wouldn't classify that as a true or false question. It depends on the situation.

Sometimes the GM is going to look short-term because his job is on the line, and I think that was the case for us when we picked Adelman as our coach.

[NikolaPekovic]

adelman most likely had a hand in every player that has left and came since he started here

[FinnTheHuman]

A coach and GM should work together to find the best solution in both aspects. They both should have the option to approve or disapprove every decision the other one makes.

[C.lupus]

True. No, fal...aaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh h h h h h h h

[[RCG]]

A GM should make all player-personnel decisions instead of a coach, because a GM can make longterm decisions for the franchise, and the coach's scope is "right now."

A GM should listen to input from the coach. They need to be on the same page. But the GM should have final say and be accountable for all personnel decisions. The coach should be responsible for the play of the team.

[Klomp]

From my understanding, Kahn has leaned on his coaches to know what types of players they need for their system. In some cases, it's a specific individual, not just a skillset.

So to some extent, sure, Adelman has had a hand in every move since coming here. But you can say the exact same thing about Rambis during his time here.

Kahn is on his own with Rubio, Flynn, Ellington, Norel, Williams, and Lee.

[LordBaldric]

When your GM is as poor a talent evaluator as David Kahn, you let the ballboy decide on moves if need be.

[andyhop]

Interesting to hear Zach Harper on a CBS podcast saying that Kahn was never supposed to be involved in player evaluation when he was appointed GM.He was supposed to do the business side of the job and someone else was going to be in charge of finding and selecting players, but the other person never got appointed and Kahn was left having to do it.

In an ideal world the coach would provide his GM with a list of players he would like and then the GM would be in charge of finding a way to acquire .

[[RCG]]

Interesting to hear Zach Harper on a CBS podcast saying that Kahn was never supposed to be involved in player evaluation when he was appointed GM.He was supposed to do the business side of the job and someone else was going to be in charge of finding and selecting players, but the other person never got appointed and Kahn was left having to do it.

In an ideal world the coach would provide his GM with a list of players he would like and then the GM would be in charge of finding a way to acquire .

I thought that was how the Adelman-Kahn set up was...

[shrink]

Interesting to hear Zach Harper on a CBS podcast saying that Kahn was never supposed to be involved in player evaluation when he was appointed GM.He was supposed to do the business side of the job and someone else was going to be in charge of finding and selecting players, but the other person never got appointed and Kahn was left having to do it.

In an ideal world the coach would provide his GM with a list of players he would like and then the GM would be in charge of finding a way to acquire .

I thought that was how the Adelman-Kahn set up was...

I think now we would have a much better situation, but it's possible that Kahn's errors have poisoned the chance that it could work.

[Saltine]

From what I recall, Adelman told Kahn who he didn't want on the team, so Kahn could move them.And he gave him a list of a few dozen guys they liked, then Kahn went out and tried to get those guys. I think that's how it should work, and it certainly has played out well this season, excepting the injuries. If we hadn't lost Bud and Love we'd probably be 16 and 5 right now.

The Coach should decide who he needs, the GM should facilitate. If the team loses both may well be fired, and the coach needs his guys to win....

[Worm Guts]

Kahn is a guy who needs to listen to his coach. I don't think that's the case with all GM's and coaches. I'm not sure Sam Presti gets much input from Scotty Brooks.

[AQuintus]

A GM should make all player-personnel decisions instead of a coach, because a GM can make longterm decisions for the franchise, and the coach's scope is "right now."

A GM should listen to input from the coach. They need to be on the same page. But the GM should have final say and be accountable for all personnel decisions. The coach should be responsible for the play of the team.

This, and the GM should also be taking in input from the owner and scouts as well.

[Markutis]

GM's coaching decisions MUST end the very moment they hire a coach, starting again when based on results is decided to fire that coach and look for another one.

GM's hire personnel, players or coaches. That's it. They should't mix with everyday game issues.

[Dewey]

Interesting to hear Zach Harper on a CBS podcast saying that Kahn was never supposed to be involved in player evaluation when he was appointed GM.He was supposed to do the business side of the job and someone else was going to be in charge of finding and selecting players, but the other person never got appointed and Kahn was left having to do it.

In an ideal world the coach would provide his GM with a list of players he would like and then the GM would be in charge of finding a way to acquire .

I thought that was how the Adelman-Kahn set up was...

I think now we would have a much better situation, but it's possible that Kahn's errors have poisoned the chance that it could work.

SO ... was this deadend thread intended to start a Kahn ripping session?

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SO ... was this deadend thread intended to start a Kahn ripping session?

I heard the quote said about NFL teams in general, and I thought it was particularly interesting when it was applied to the Wolves.

I don't think there is any debating that coaches need to win-now, because generally they are the ones that get fired if the team doesn't win. Rick Adelman may be even more win-now than most, since he's getting older, and was brought in by Taylor to get wins.

However, there are plenty of times when a team needs to take one step back to take two steps forward. Swapping Ridnour for an unproductive expiring and a Top 20 protected pick, as someone suggested on the Trade Board, would reduce the talent on the team this year, but maybe provide an asset we could package to get someone better than Ridnour next year. If Adelman is truly in control of the Wolves, does he make a trade like that?