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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#601 » by minimus » Fri May 19, 2017 5:52 pm

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minimus wrote:After AllStar team announcement Butler is officially out of reach, Hayward if decides to change situation will likely go to Boston. George??? I don't know why Larry Bird didn't trade PG13 to ATL for four first round picks.


I don't get why people have a hard-on for this trade, I wouldn't do it if I were the Pacers. Those 4 picks aren't that good. The Cleveland pick is virtually a 2nd round pick, the Wolves pick is lottery protected, and the 2 Atlanta picks will most likely not be in the lottery. Quantity does not come close to quality, especially in a rebuild.


Maybe because Pacers might lose PG13 without any compensation at all?
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Post#602 » by minimus » Fri May 19, 2017 6:08 pm

I think that should avoid FA players or trade targets that can be next K-Mart, Chase Budinger or Pekovic.

1) Favors, Matthews, Tyreke Evans are injury prone. Imagine how quick they get injured again with Thibs intensity
2) We have solid bigman in Dieng, nothing flashy, but a good player under good contract. We have solid PG in Rubio, fresh after best season, again under good contract. I dont see any real trade that upgrade our roster, unless we get true star in return,
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#603 » by fattymcgee » Fri May 19, 2017 7:39 pm

minimus wrote:
fattymcgee wrote:
minimus wrote:After AllStar team announcement Butler is officially out of reach, Hayward if decides to change situation will likely go to Boston. George??? I don't know why Larry Bird didn't trade PG13 to ATL for four first round picks.


I don't get why people have a hard-on for this trade, I wouldn't do it if I were the Pacers. Those 4 picks aren't that good. The Cleveland pick is virtually a 2nd round pick, the Wolves pick is lottery protected, and the 2 Atlanta picks will most likely not be in the lottery. Quantity does not come close to quality, especially in a rebuild.


Maybe because Pacers might lose PG13 without any compensation at all?


Just like the Wolves lost Kevin Love without any compensation?
They'll get a better offer than that.

Also, why would Jimmy Butler making an all-nba make him out of reach?
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#604 » by rugbyrugger23 » Fri May 19, 2017 8:00 pm

mercgold3 wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:Here's another trade idea with Philly:

Lavine + 7 (Monk, Smith?) for Saric +3 (Jackson).

Pretty good but i don't think Philly sees Lavine > Saric.

I would do that trade.

I would also swap Wiggins for LaVine and get additional assets from Philly. Covington seems like a Thibs guy.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#605 » by shrink » Sat May 20, 2017 12:52 am

fattymcgee wrote:
minimus wrote:After AllStar team announcement Butler is officially out of reach, Hayward if decides to change situation will likely go to Boston. George??? I don't know why Larry Bird didn't trade PG13 to ATL for four first round picks.


I don't get why people have a hard-on for this trade, I wouldn't do it if I were the Pacers. Those 4 picks aren't that good. The Cleveland pick is virtually a 2nd round pick, the Wolves pick is lottery protected, and the 2 Atlanta picks will most likely not be in the lottery. Quantity does not come close to quality, especially in a rebuild.

I agree. The ATL picks were likely in the 20's, even without Paul George. I think the other two are ours and CLE's. The chance of snagging a star with those four chances is probably lower than their chance of keeping George.

Now that George has only one season guaranteed, and can help in only one playoff, I think his value is a lot less.
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Post#606 » by jpake1 » Sat May 20, 2017 2:14 am

One of our Miami guys stated several days ago that Wiggins was on the short list of targets this summer. This caught me by surprise a bit. With that said, if you guys traded him to Miami, what type of package would you be looking at?
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Post#607 » by theGreatRC » Sat May 20, 2017 2:15 am

jpake1 wrote:One of our Miami guys stated several days ago that Wiggins was on the short list of targets this summer. This caught me by surprise a bit. With that said, if you guys traded him to Miami, what type of package would you be looking at?


I'm sorry, there's not 1 prospect on the Heat roster I would trade Wiggins for
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Post#608 » by Klomp » Sat May 20, 2017 2:23 am

Maybe they meant Nick Wiggins? Or Candace Wiggins?
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Post#609 » by C.lupus » Sat May 20, 2017 2:41 am

Well to the Miami guy who said that, I say: good luck with that. He's not a free agent and he's not getting traded.
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Post#610 » by Crazy-Canuck » Sat May 20, 2017 3:21 am

Weird that a Miami guy would specifically mention Wiggins as an off season target.

Maybe Riley sees some young Kobe in Wiggins.

Rubio + Wiggins

Dragic+Winslow+fillers

Highly unlikely, but that would probably be the starting point.
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Post#611 » by moss_is_1 » Sat May 20, 2017 3:41 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weird that a Miami guy would specifically mention Wiggins as an off season target.

Maybe Riley sees some young Kobe in Wiggins.

Rubio + Wiggins

Dragic+Winslow+fillers

Highly unlikely, but that would probably be the starting point.

Only way I even consider moving Wiggins is if Whiteside is involved.
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Post#612 » by Mattya » Sat May 20, 2017 4:43 am

moss_is_1 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weird that a Miami guy would specifically mention Wiggins as an off season target.

Maybe Riley sees some young Kobe in Wiggins.

Rubio + Wiggins

Dragic+Winslow+fillers

Highly unlikely, but that would probably be the starting point.

Only way I even consider moving Wiggins is if Whiteside is involved.


I wouldn't. Towns needs to spend a majority of his time at center.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#613 » by subwayJ » Sat May 20, 2017 6:53 am

Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weird that a Miami guy would specifically mention Wiggins as an off season target.

Maybe Riley sees some young Kobe in Wiggins.

Rubio + Wiggins

Dragic+Winslow+fillers

Highly unlikely, but that would probably be the starting point.


Highly unlikely?

HIGHLY UNLIKELY! That got worse every line I read. You wouldn't get Wiggins for the miami combo let alone us putting in Rubio as well.

Any deal around Wiggins and Miami is crazy to talk about but it beings and ends with Whiteside and thats it. Picks to balance it out, we aint adding anything to Wiggins if he is being dealt to Miami. They dont have that type of currency.
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Post#614 » by HitmanCapone » Sat May 20, 2017 7:34 am

jpake1 wrote:One of our Miami guys stated several days ago that Wiggins was on the short list of targets this summer. This caught me by surprise a bit. With that said, if you guys traded him to Miami, what type of package would you be looking at?


Whiteside, Winslow & 3 future 1st round picks and you got a deal
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Post#615 » by rugbyrugger23 » Sat May 20, 2017 7:48 am

To Bucks: LaVine + Hill + 7

To Wolves: Parker + Maker + Vaughn

Wolves:
Towns - Maker | Dieng | Aldrich
Maker - Towns | Bjelica | Dieng
Parker | Wiggins | Rush or Vet 3D
Wiggins | Dunn | Vaughn
Rubio | Dunn | Jones

Bucks:
Monroe | Henson | #17
Giannis | Tele | Hawes
Middleton | Giannis | Vet 3D or Snell
LaVine | Brogdon | Middleton
Monk or Smith | Delly | Brogdon
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Post#616 » by shangrila » Sat May 20, 2017 10:21 am

Krapinsky wrote:We have a future first team all-nba center on our team. I don't see why we would use any significant assets to get another center.

I'm with you on this.

Now, if WCS could play big minutes at PF then maybe he makes sense. But as a C? We've got far bigger holes to fix than Towns' backup.
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Re: Trade Ideas thread 

Post#617 » by Krapinsky » Sat May 20, 2017 2:49 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Crazy-Canuck wrote:Weird that a Miami guy would specifically mention Wiggins as an off season target.

Maybe Riley sees some young Kobe in Wiggins.

Rubio + Wiggins

Dragic+Winslow+fillers

Highly unlikely, but that would probably be the starting point.

Only way I even consider moving Wiggins is if Whiteside is involved.


Nope, wouldn't consider that either.
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Post#618 » by HitmanCapone » Sat May 20, 2017 9:26 pm

shangrila wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:We have a future first team all-nba center on our team. I don't see why we would use any significant assets to get another center.

I'm with you on this.

Now, if WCS could play big minutes at PF then maybe he makes sense. But as a C? We've got far bigger holes to fix than Towns' backup.

I think this is one of the worst arguments/assessments I've seen this offseason. (Going with the O.P.) Yes KAT is a future 1st team all NBA @ C but he could also be a future 1st team all NBA at PF just as easily as he could C. That is one of KAT's greatest strengths and you're trying to box him into a set position.

WCS skillset would mesh well with KAT and they already have chemistry together during their time together at Kentucky.
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Post#619 » by codigoman » Sun May 21, 2017 2:34 am

Dunn + #7 for #3 (jackson)
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Post#620 » by shrink » Sun May 21, 2017 6:04 am

codigoman wrote:Dunn + #7 for #3 (jackson)

I don't think there is a big difference between #3 through #8-9, so I wouldn't give up Dunn to move up to #3. Maybe Tyus.

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