Post Games Thoughts. Cavs. Number 2.

[Klomp]

I'm not sure Nowell has quite carved out a role yet. Last year, Rosas traded away Dieng and Vonleh because he felt comfortable with Reid as backup. He traded away Napier and Teague because he was comfortable with McLaughlin. I'm not sure Rosas is ready to do that yet with Nowell. He might clear some wings at the deadline, but I don't think Nowell will be the reason.

[Jedzz]

I'm not sure Nowell has quite carved out a role yet. Last year, Rosas traded away Dieng and Vonleh because he felt comfortable with Reid as backup. He traded away Napier and Teague because he was comfortable with McLaughlin. I'm not sure Rosas is ready to do that yet with Nowell. He might clear some wings at the deadline, but I don't think Nowell will be the reason.

I do think they were working a sales job on him the other day with the game broadcast. Either that or just trying to talk the fans into accepting him playing more after they trade others. One of the two.

[Sugarless]

Bunch of hot air, that's what you are talking about.

Nothing you can actually bring to the conversation, right? That's what I figured.

If there was any substance and not just subjective talk in that hot mess I would dissect it for valuable discussion. That's obviously my way. Just don't see any there this time.

Your description of him in college seems so far off base I don't see the point in discussing. He played as an end of the spear but as the second to Thybulle's and other Senior's leads early in games. The older players always were leading the attack early on. First half of games he was never a Me First Guy. I've seen most his college games and most ended the same way. When Thybulle knew it was time to in second half of games he started going to Nowell for everything and finish those possessions and games he did. But that team moved the ball really well and would find Nowell with good passes and he would drain them or drive many in for his accurate floaters. That team probably beats this Timbwolves team sans Towns a few games out of 5 just from playing cleaner basketball. But since your view of his time there is left field there is no further discussion needed. If he was a me first guy the first half of all those games he would have been a lot like Edwards trying to run point and initiate so much. Never did.

I just realized you edited your post and added a bunch of made up BS after your first one-liner. Did you get that first-half Thybulle crap (defensive specialist who was the 4th and at times the 5th option on that team, the other main scorers were Dickerson who was their PF and Crisp, who was Fultz's running mate at the other guard position, and he kept that role with Nowell) from watching a clip of a random game on Youtube?

Dude, I already knew you're a phony. You didn't need to make it painfully clear.

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[Jedzz]

Nothing you can actually bring to the conversation, right? That's what I figured.

If there was any substance and not just subjective talk in that hot mess I would dissect it for valuable discussion. That's obviously my way. Just don't see any there this time.

Your description of him in college seems so far off base I don't see the point in discussing. He played as an end of the spear but as the second to Thybulle's and other Senior's leads early in games. The older players always were leading the attack early on. First half of games he was never a Me First Guy. I've seen most his college games and most ended the same way. When Thybulle knew it was time to in second half of games he started going to Nowell for everything and finish those possessions and games he did. But that team moved the ball really well and would find Nowell with good passes and he would drain them or drive many in for his accurate floaters. That team probably beats this Timbwolves team sans Towns a few games out of 5 just from playing cleaner basketball. But since your view of his time there is left field there is no further discussion needed. If he was a me first guy the first half of all those games he would have been a lot like Edwards trying to run point and initiate so much. Never did.

I just realized you edited your post and added a bunch of made up BS after your first one-liner. Did you get that first-half Thybulle crap (defensive specialist who was the 4th and at times the 5th option on that team, the other main scorers were Dickerson who was their PF and Crisp, who was Fultz's running mate at the other guard position, and he kept that role with Nowell) from watching a clip of a random game on Youtube?

Dude, I already knew you're a phony. You didn't need to make it painfully clear.

Man. Don't tell me you didn't just go look up Dickersons name. I think you might have or you only know him from the Fultz era. Both he and Thybulle were the seniors then of the season I watched. Which as I said got most of the early game play and Nowell allowed it even though he was 100% their best scoring threat. They both deferred to Nowell's shooting in 3rd and 4th quarters. Before that it was all them. The difference in mindset and as teamplayer between someone like Nowell and Edwards (just an example because he's present here and now) is huge. Thybulle was also 100% their leader that year runnnig most things with Dickerson in the first two quarters of games. Even at the end, but using Nowell as the end point more. Thybulle got drafted for his defense and his leadership. Your 4th, 5th option bs is just that, BS. Was Ricky Rubio considered the 4th or 5th option when he played with utah or suns just because he's not scoring 20 a game? No, he was their starting PG working onball and defender on the other end. Thybulle wasn't a great shooter in college, but he was still a huge part of their offense, not just defense. Of course you won't get those things looking at numbers. You had to watch the games. I don't think you did, not after Fultz was gone.

Given your description of Nowell previously and Thybulle and Dickerson now, I think you were checking that team out back when Fultz was there before all this, probably when Fultz was a big draft hype. That's all before Nowell era and your previous post seemed to know very little about Nowell's time there since. When you bring up Fultz you are talking about two years prior. Nowell had his freshman and soph years, the latter is what I watched the season of. I get the feeling from your posts you are talking about what Thybulle and Dickerson looked like when Fultz was there two years prior. Of which I have never made any claims of watching that period or that player in college.

We didn't need to get into this. But since you wanted to say too much, I think I figured you out to a T, and can still rightfully claim your description of what these players ended up being as wrong.

[Sugarless]

If there was any substance and not just subjective talk in that hot mess I would dissect it for valuable discussion. That's obviously my way. Just don't see any there this time.

Your description of him in college seems so far off base I don't see the point in discussing. He played as an end of the spear but as the second to Thybulle's and other Senior's leads early in games. The older players always were leading the attack early on. First half of games he was never a Me First Guy. I've seen most his college games and most ended the same way. When Thybulle knew it was time to in second half of games he started going to Nowell for everything and finish those possessions and games he did. But that team moved the ball really well and would find Nowell with good passes and he would drain them or drive many in for his accurate floaters. That team probably beats this Timbwolves team sans Towns a few games out of 5 just from playing cleaner basketball. But since your view of his time there is left field there is no further discussion needed. If he was a me first guy the first half of all those games he would have been a lot like Edwards trying to run point and initiate so much. Never did.

I just realized you edited your post and added a bunch of made up BS after your first one-liner. Did you get that first-half Thybulle crap (defensive specialist who was the 4th and at times the 5th option on that team, the other main scorers were Dickerson who was their PF and Crisp, who was Fultz's running mate at the other guard position, and he kept that role with Nowell) from watching a clip of a random game on Youtube?

Dude, I already knew you're a phony. You didn't need to make it painfully clear.

Man. Don't tell me you didn't just go look up Dickersons name. I think you might have or you only know him from the Fultz era. Both he and Thybulle were the seniors then of the season I watched. Which as I said got most of the early game play and Nowell allowed it even though he was 100% their best scoring threat. They both deferred to Nowell's shooting in 3rd and 4th quarters. Before that it was all them. The difference in mindset and as teamplayer between someone like Nowell and Edwards (just an example because he's present here and now) is huge. Thybulle was also 100% their leader that year runnnig most things with Dickerson in the first two quarters of games. Even at the end, but using Nowell as the end point more. Thybulle got drafted for his defense and his leadership. Your 4th, 5th option bs is just that, BS. Was Ricky Rubio considered the 4th or 5th option when he played with utah or suns just because he's not scoring 20 a game? No, he was their starting PG working onball and defender on the other end. Thybulle wasn't a great shooter in college, but he was still a huge part of their offense, not just defense. Of course you won't get those things looking at numbers. You had to watch the games. I don't think you did, not after Fultz was gone.

Given your description of Nowell previously and Thybulle and Dickerson now, I think you were checking that team out back when Fultz was there before all this, probably when Fultz was a big draft hype. That's all before Nowell era and your previous post seemed to know very little about Nowell's time there since. When you bring up Fultz you are talking about two years prior. Nowell had his freshman and soph years, the latter is what I watched the season of. I get the feeling from your posts you are talking about what Thybulle and Dickerson looked like when Fultz was there two years prior. Of which I have never made any claims of watching that period or that player in college.

We didn't need to get into this. But since you wanted to say too much, I think I figured you out to a T, and can still rightfully claim your description of what these players ended up being as wrong.

Hahahaha. Dude, you're a joke. You just keep pushing the same BS after watching a clip on YT (most likely from their lone win in the March Madness that year) and you just can't stop yapping your mouth, so you get more exposed with every word you say. Yesterday you had watched -and I quote- "most of his games in college", now you have only seen his sophomore season and never talked about his first year (probably because there weren't any MM games from his freshman year to look at, since they didn't make it ), while I've been talking about the player he's been since his first moment in college when he took over Fultz's spot and became their best and main scorer, right away. You then go on about Mattise freakin' Thybulle of all people (a mediocre ballhandler and poor passer who scored mainly on spot-up 3s, transition and cuts to the basket, and who was maybe 5th in usage on that team) running things! For christ sake, have some pride and some decency.

I guess that's what you have to expect from a kid who says that UW team moved the ball beautifully despite the fact that they were at the bottom of their conference in APG his whole tenure there, like they are to this day (Mike Hopkins' teams aren't known for their top-notch ball-movement, precisely ) and how they would win a few games out of 5 to this team (do you even know how lacking in talent that team was?) just by playing cleaner basketball (a team that had more TOs than assists every season ).

Here's the thing, Jedzz: I don't care that you didn't watch those college games, it's not a big deal. You like a guy on your team, you make up a couple excuses to defend him and you end up taking it a bit too far. That's ok. The real issure here is that you're a brat. Every single message you feel the urge to tell other people how their posts are trash, how their arguments have no merit, how you discard most of what they say, while you keep spewing nonsense trying to make it look like everyone's beneath your level. You're petty, disrespectful and, quite frankly, not a very interesting read. A couple guys have told you already, but you won't learn.

You're going to stay on my ignore list now, so feel free to reply to this message and to take it even further, or tell other guys how you didn't actually mean you had watched Nowell in most of his games, while you triple down on Matisse Thybulle running things for the Dawgs (man, that's a great one, if only there had been another name on that roster that you could recognize from an NBA team). Just know that I won't be reading it or wasting another second of my time with you; whenever I get the notification that you quoted me I'm going to click the 'checked' mark and leave that message fall into oblivion. Hope you get rid of that internet persona you're building and start treating others with some respect. Your time on this board will be more enjoyable, you'll see.

[Jedzz]

Hahahaha. Dude, you're a joke. You just keep pushing the same BS after watching a clip on YT.

You must feel really hurt about something I posted. I apologize as I never meant to hurt your feelings, but I would suggest you seek help for getting on day to day. We are done conversing.