Trade Talk (Part Eight)

[TaylorTag]

No one cares about this. Promise you. We have all posted dumb drivel. Let it go. Please.

PS: we should trade Bolmaro

[KGdaBom]

No one cares about this. Promise you. We have all posted dumb drivel. Let it go. Please.

PS: we should trade Bolmaro

I don't want to trade Bolmaro. He's a fun shiny new toy that I want to play with.

[SO_MONEY]

I read your post entirely. I understood it. In some ways I think you're right. On the other hand your being oblivious to the reality that people don't take kindly to what SM is dishing out is why I said you were being possibly sanctimonious. It's no longer a possibility. It's a fact. You are being sanctimonious.

If you read it and understood it, you’d be ashamed to bring up again, “but look what the other guy did!”

And you’re right, maybe I am being sanctimonious, and I haven’t always been a perfect poster. But come on. Many of these posts on the last three pages are simply name-calling - no content whatsoever. I believe we can discuss things, and regardless of whether we disagree with the someone’s position or the way he or she posts, the absolute minimum we should be able to do is to not resort to being name-calling children.

Great post. You admitted your own flaws and then requested others do the right thing. I join you in requesting that the name calling stops. We should not be name calling. I'm just saying in this one case be a little understanding despite it all.

You literally out and out lie and misrepresent people's posts and yet somehow the people you do this to are composed enough to refrain from name calling, you are not the victim, you are the perpetrator. It is comical and borderline insulting you are now requesting name calling stop, you are the one doing it, stop.

WFL is right though. TRADES.

[SO_MONEY]

No one cares about this. Promise you. We have all posted dumb drivel. Let it go. Please.

PS: we should trade Bolmaro

For what?

[thinktank]

You can’t say Simmons isn’t a PG.

If a team wants to use him as one, then he’s a PG. Period.

Several people have leaked that interested teams want him at PF not PG, I think his days as a PG are over. Teams probably want him in more of a Randle role, where you should get more out of him.

Ok well it hasn’t happened yet so that’s a prediction / assumption / theory as of yet.

[shrink]

Yes. Trades

I want to revisit Larry Nance, and his name has come up again recently. CLE continues to try to trade him, and according to the Athletic, is willing to take on salary this year to rid themselves of Nance’s money next year ($10.7, $9.7). Moving the money next year is a big deal with the contract they gave to Jarrett Allen. Moreover, CLE has fully embraced the rebuild, and they will be giving big man minutes to Mobley and Allen, and Kevin Love is probably immovable. Finally, he has always been a good soldier for CLE, so I hope they swould be looking to find him a place where he can get big minutes and continue to advance his career. MIN is a good fit, and one of the few teams remaining that doesn’t have a PF locked in place.

The three most straightforward options I can see for a Nance trade are:

A. Patrick Beverley ($14.3) for Nance ($10.7, $9.7) + $3.6 mil TPE.

B. Josh Okogie ($4.1) + Jake Layman ($3.9) for Nance (uses $2.7 of our space under the lux)

C. Okogie, Layman + Jaylen Nowell ($1.8) for Nance + 2nd.

Cleveland is reportedly looking for wing help, but finding those expirings is very important, and we have those. We can certainly use a good, defensive-minded PF to help KAT underneath. He’s smaller at 6’ 7”, but he is a good rebounder and a decent threat from the three point line. I don’t mind his salary either.

I think the easier path is a 3 way with Memphis. I think we also need to ask if we are willing to go into the tax. Given the number of teams already there if we are not willing that says a lot about our future.

I’m curious what you’re proposing as a three way?

Also I’d appreciate others weighing in on what they’d prefer between Options A, B, or C, whether they have an Option D, or whether they would forego Nance altogether at this price?

[Krapinsky]

To everyone from the last 5 or so posts can we please start a new thread where you guys explain the value of incorrect comparisons, petty name calling, and explaining to those involved why they are wrong. I would honestly prefer we keep this thread about trades if possible.

We also need a separate sticky for posts related to poster on poster 'psychologial terrorism'

[KGdaBom]

Yes. Trades

I want to revisit Larry Nance, and his name has come up again recently. CLE continues to try to trade him, and according to the Athletic, is willing to take on salary this year to rid themselves of Nance’s money next year ($10.7, $9.7). Moving the money next year is a big deal with the contract they gave to Jarrett Allen. Moreover, CLE has fully embraced the rebuild, and they will be giving big man minutes to Mobley and Allen, and Kevin Love is probably immovable. Finally, he has always been a good soldier for CLE, so I hope they swould be looking to find him a place where he can get big minutes and continue to advance his career. MIN is a good fit, and one of the few teams remaining that doesn’t have a PF locked in place.

The three most straightforward options I can see for a Nance trade are:

A. Patrick Beverley ($14.3) for Nance ($10.7, $9.7) + $3.6 mil TPE.

B. Josh Okogie ($4.1) + Jake Layman ($3.9) for Nance (uses $2.7 of our space under the lux)

C. Okogie, Layman + Jaylen Nowell ($1.8) for Nance + 2nd.

Cleveland is reportedly looking for wing help, but finding those expirings is very important, and we have those. We can certainly use a good, defensive-minded PF to help KAT underneath. He’s smaller at 6’ 7”, but he is a good rebounder and a decent threat from the three point line. I don’t mind his salary either.

I think the easier path is a 3 way with Memphis. I think we also need to ask if we are willing to go into the tax. Given the number of teams already there if we are not willing that says a lot about our future.

I’m curious what you’re proposing as a three way?

Also I’d appreciate others weighing in on what they’d prefer between Options A, B, or C, whether they have an Option D, or whether they would forego Nance altogether at this price?

If we can get Nance for option B I'm packing everybody's bags for them and driving them to the airport.

[Krapinsky]

Yes. Trades

I want to revisit Larry Nance, and his name has come up again recently. CLE continues to try to trade him, and according to the Athletic, is willing to take on salary this year to rid themselves of Nance’s money next year ($10.7, $9.7). Moving the money next year is a big deal with the contract they gave to Jarrett Allen. Moreover, CLE has fully embraced the rebuild, and they will be giving big man minutes to Mobley and Allen, and Kevin Love is probably immovable. Finally, he has always been a good soldier for CLE, so I hope they swould be looking to find him a place where he can get big minutes and continue to advance his career. MIN is a good fit, and one of the few teams remaining that doesn’t have a PF locked in place.

The three most straightforward options I can see for a Nance trade are:

A. Patrick Beverley ($14.3) for Nance ($10.7, $9.7) + $3.6 mil TPE.

B. Josh Okogie ($4.1) + Jake Layman ($3.9) for Nance (uses $2.7 of our space under the lux)

C. Okogie, Layman + Jaylen Nowell ($1.8) for Nance + 2nd.

Cleveland is reportedly looking for wing help, but finding those expirings is very important, and we have those. We can certainly use a good, defensive-minded PF to help KAT underneath. He’s smaller at 6’ 7”, but he is a good rebounder and a decent threat from the three point line. I don’t mind his salary either.

I think the easier path is a 3 way with Memphis. I think we also need to ask if we are willing to go into the tax. Given the number of teams already there if we are not willing that says a lot about our future.

I’m curious what you’re proposing as a three way?

Also I’d appreciate others weighing in on what they’d prefer between Options A, B, or C, whether they have an Option D, or whether they would forego Nance altogether at this price?

Definately option D for me absent other moves that might significantly improve the team. I also think in reading the tea leaves y'all are wasting your time with Nance scenarios because Rosas has ZERO interest in taking on the second year of Nance's deal. He's been positioning the roster for more cap flexibility to make a big addition either this year or next year.

Look at the players with guaranteed contracts next year. Aside from the potential disappointment that Russell portends to be, It's quite amazing how well he has taken care of our balance sheet for the future.


Karl-Anthony Towns 26 C Bird Rookie Max Ext (25%) $33,833,400 ($33,833,400) $33,833,400 17.38 $36,016,200

D'Angelo Russell 26 SG Sign-and-Trade Max (25%) $31,377,750 ($31,377,750) $31,377,750 16.11 -

Malik Beasley 25 SG Bird $15,458,035 ($15,458,035) $15,558,035 7.99 -

Anthony Edwards 21 SG Rookie $10,733,400 - $10,733,400 5.51 -

Jaden McDaniels 22 PF Rookie $2,161,440 - $2,161,440 1.11 -

Jaylen Nowell 23 SG NT-MLE $1,930,681 - $1,930,681 0.99 -

Naz Reid 23 C NT-MLE $1,930,681 - $1,930,681 0.99 -

+ Bolmaro

[Klomp]

No one cares about this. Promise you. We have all posted dumb drivel. Let it go. Please.

PS: we should trade Bolmaro

If you're posting crazy hot takes to get the attention off whatever the last few pages have been, it worked.

Or is this your example of dumb drivel?

[Klomp]

Look at the players with guaranteed contracts next year. Aside from the potential disappointment that Russell portends to be, It's quite amazing how well he has taken care of our balance sheet for the future.


Karl-Anthony Towns 26 C Bird Rookie Max Ext (25%) $33,833,400 ($33,833,400) $33,833,400 17.38 $36,016,200

D'Angelo Russell 26 SG Sign-and-Trade Max (25%) $31,377,750 ($31,377,750) $31,377,750 16.11 -

Malik Beasley 25 SG Bird $15,458,035 ($15,458,035) $15,558,035 7.99 -

Anthony Edwards 21 SG Rookie $10,733,400 - $10,733,400 5.51 -

Jaden McDaniels 22 PF Rookie $2,161,440 - $2,161,440 1.11 -

Jaylen Nowell 23 SG NT-MLE $1,930,681 - $1,930,681 0.99 -

Naz Reid 23 C NT-MLE $1,930,681 - $1,930,681 0.99 -

+ Bolmaro

And this is exactly why a Simmons wouldn't be as cap-crippling as some think.

[Domejandro]

This thread is locked, please read the first posts of the following two threads before posting. Thank you!

TRADES: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2118770

BEN SIMMONS: viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2118773