Ben Simmons Thread (READ FIRST POST)

[winforlose]

This trade I believe works for all teams.

Hou in - Nowell, Reid, Okoge, Jordan M, lotto protected 1
Out - Wood

Rockets get young players, expirings, and a future 1 for Wood

Phi in - Beasley, Wood, protected 1
Out - Simmons

76ers get Beasley and Wood, plus Layman expiring. Beasley and Curry are new backcourt which are two great shooters, Wood, Harris and Embiid in frontcourt plus a 1rst.

MN in - Simmons
Out - Beasley, Reid,Nowell, Jordan M,Layman, 2 1rsts

MN clears out some clutter and will need to add players for depth, but gets Simmons

PG - DLo, Beverly, Wright
SG - Edwards, FA, Bolmaro
SF - McDaniels, Prince
PF - Simmons, Vanderbilt
C - Towns, FA, knight

Wolves look to add a vet SG and C for depth...perhaps Gasol, Cousins, or Leonard and a guy like Patrick McCaw, Terrence Ferguson, or Jerome Robinson

Congrats you gutted the team, didn’t save much money and left no tools to rebuild it. The FAs are minimums, that means you are going full G league or old has been behind Towns and have no margin for error at the SG, SF, or PF. You also downgraded the backup PG. This trade is not only way overpaying it is downright silly. Depth matters.

[Norseman79]

This trade I believe works for all teams.

Hou in - Nowell, Reid, Okoge, Jordan M, lotto protected 1
Out - Wood

Rockets get young players, expirings, and a future 1 for Wood

Phi in - Beasley, Wood, protected 1
Out - Simmons

76ers get Beasley and Wood, plus Layman expiring. Beasley and Curry are new backcourt which are two great shooters, Wood, Harris and Embiid in frontcourt plus a 1rst.

MN in - Simmons
Out - Beasley, Reid,Nowell, Jordan M,Layman, 2 1rsts

MN clears out some clutter and will need to add players for depth, but gets Simmons

PG - DLo, Beverly, Wright
SG - Edwards, FA, Bolmaro
SF - McDaniels, Prince
PF - Simmons, Vanderbilt
C - Towns, FA, knight

Wolves look to add a vet SG and C for depth...perhaps Gasol, Cousins, or Leonard and a guy like Patrick McCaw, Terrence Ferguson, or Jerome Robinson

Congrats you gutted the team, didn’t save much money and left no tools to rebuild it. The FAs are minimums, that means you are going full G league or old has been behind Towns and have no margin for error at the SG, SF, or PF. You also downgraded the backup PG. This trade is not only way overpaying it is downright silly. Depth matters.

No tools to rebuild it? Downgraded back up PG?
No margin for error at SF?

Ok...first team isn't gutted...Layman sucks, Nowell is 3rd on depth chart right now, Jordan M is essentially a 3rd string pg, Naz is a great young piece that is about to get expensive and Beasley is a wildcard who can shoot, and two 1rsts for Ben Simmons.

PG - DLo and Beverly are first two pgs anyway and Wright may be better than Jordan M.

SG - Edwards should be getting 35 minutes a night and honestly, any of the free agents I referenced are equal or better than Nowell. Beasley goes but you have to give up something to get something. Don't forget Bolmaro.

SF - McDaniels and Prince are starter and backup, how did this position change?

PF - Simmons and Vanderbilt massive upgrade

C - Towns... losing Naz hurts here, but again vets will come and We need to sign another big anyway.

Personally, I think that you just don't want Simmons. Otherwise your take is simply...well, silly.

[moonpie]

So if reports are correct, Prince is eligible to be aggregated in trades starting tomorrow.

[fattymcgee]

I just and oned your comment. There's a little plus one toward the top right of the post.
Do you admire the word Douche as a put down. I know a lot of people use it, but when you think about it it's kind of messed up to use feminine hygiene products as a put down.
You have your right to be wrong is my thing. Everybody has a right to be wrong. I don't get how that would hurt somebody's feelings to know I think they're wrong. Lots of people think I'm wrong about things and it doesn't hurt my feelings.

I don't think I've ever seen anyone put up such a stink over the word douche. Maybe if you embraced the douche you wouldn't have to stink.

It's pretty disgusting to use that word for anything other than what it actually is.

Spoiler:

I was using it correctly, I was calling you a vagina. Hence the need for you to douche.

No. -Dome

[KGdaBom]

I don't think I've ever seen anyone put up such a stink over the word douche. Maybe if you embraced the douche you wouldn't have to stink.

It's pretty disgusting to use that word for anything other than what it actually is.

Spoiler:

I was using it correctly, I was calling you a vagina. Hence the need for you to douche.

Something is very wrong with you. You are reported and I hope you can never post here again.

[winforlose]

This trade I believe works for all teams.

Hou in - Nowell, Reid, Okoge, Jordan M, lotto protected 1
Out - Wood

Rockets get young players, expirings, and a future 1 for Wood

Phi in - Beasley, Wood, protected 1
Out - Simmons

76ers get Beasley and Wood, plus Layman expiring. Beasley and Curry are new backcourt which are two great shooters, Wood, Harris and Embiid in frontcourt plus a 1rst.

MN in - Simmons
Out - Beasley, Reid,Nowell, Jordan M,Layman, 2 1rsts

MN clears out some clutter and will need to add players for depth, but gets Simmons

PG - DLo, Beverly, Wright
SG - Edwards, FA, Bolmaro
SF - McDaniels, Prince
PF - Simmons, Vanderbilt
C - Towns, FA, knight

Wolves look to add a vet SG and C for depth...perhaps Gasol, Cousins, or Leonard and a guy like Patrick McCaw, Terrence Ferguson, or Jerome Robinson

Congrats you gutted the team, didn’t save much money and left no tools to rebuild it. The FAs are minimums, that means you are going full G league or old has been behind Towns and have no margin for error at the SG, SF, or PF. You also downgraded the backup PG. This trade is not only way overpaying it is downright silly. Depth matters.

No tools to rebuild it? Downgraded back up PG?
No margin for error at SF?

Ok...first team isn't gutted...Layman sucks, Nowell is 3rd on depth chart right now, Jordan M is essentially a 3rd string pg, Naz is a great young piece that is about to get expensive and Beasley is a wildcard who can shoot, and two 1rsts for Ben Simmons.

PG - DLo and Beverly are first two pgs anyway and Wright may be better than Jordan M.

SG - Edwards should be getting 35 minutes a night and honestly, any of the free agents I referenced are equal or better than Nowell. Beasley goes but you have to give up something to get something. Don't forget Bolmaro.

SF - McDaniels and Prince are starter and backup, how did this position change?

PF - Simmons and Vanderbilt massive upgrade

C - Towns... losing Naz hurts here, but again vets will come and We need to sign another big anyway.

Personally, I think that you just don't want Simmons. Otherwise your take is simply...well, silly.

PG: Either you believe Wright is equally as good as JMAC or we took a step down. You have a PG with a history of injuries in Dlo, and even more injury prone backup PG in Beverly. Wright would get real minutes and is untested at the NBA level. You can sign a floating FA but are they as good as JMAC, that is the test, and it would need to be a minimum contract.

SG: You traded your starting SG and your backup SG. That backup SG also gave you PG depth so you didn’t necessarily need To play JMAC. Moving Ant to SG makes some sense except for the fact that he is lazy on defense and Beasley at least tries. You say a random is better than Nowell I call BS. Did you even see summer league? Also your FA needs to be vet minimum.

SF: MCD at the 3 makes sense with Ant at the 2. This move is fine. Prince at the 3 is also fine in theory but when lined up with Beverly, ?, Prince, Vando, and ? You have no scoring on that unit. Plug in Bolmaro and Knight and you are basically running 4 non scores with a catch and shoot 3 point shooter.

PF: Simmons is an upgrade who makes KAT, Ant, Dlo, and MCD much easier to guard. Closes half your playbook and has a history of chocking in the playoffs. Vando as backup is fine with Naz and Nowell, and someone else to score, without them heaven help you.

C: You just lost your only KAT backup. One injury to KAT and you may as well forfeit every game he misses.

Oh, and while Layman is pretty bad, good luck finding someone better to shove at the end of your bench who has any defensive chemistry with our guys.

[Norseman79]

Congrats you gutted the team, didn’t save much money and left no tools to rebuild it. The FAs are minimums, that means you are going full G league or old has been behind Towns and have no margin for error at the SG, SF, or PF. You also downgraded the backup PG. This trade is not only way overpaying it is downright silly. Depth matters.

No tools to rebuild it? Downgraded back up PG?
No margin for error at SF?

Ok...first team isn't gutted...Layman sucks, Nowell is 3rd on depth chart right now, Jordan M is essentially a 3rd string pg, Naz is a great young piece that is about to get expensive and Beasley is a wildcard who can shoot, and two 1rsts for Ben Simmons.

PG - DLo and Beverly are first two pgs anyway and Wright may be better than Jordan M.

SG - Edwards should be getting 35 minutes a night and honestly, any of the free agents I referenced are equal or better than Nowell. Beasley goes but you have to give up something to get something. Don't forget Bolmaro.

SF - McDaniels and Prince are starter and backup, how did this position change?

PF - Simmons and Vanderbilt massive upgrade

C - Towns... losing Naz hurts here, but again vets will come and We need to sign another big anyway.

Personally, I think that you just don't want Simmons. Otherwise your take is simply...well, silly.

PG: Either you believe Wright is equally as good as JMAC or we took a step down. You have a PG with a history of injuries in Dlo, and even more injury prone backup PG in Beverly. Wright would get real minutes and is untested at the NBA level. You can sign a floating FA but are they as good as JMAC, that is the test, and it would need to be a minimum contract.

SG: You traded your starting SG and your backup SG. That backup SG also gave you PG depth so you didn’t necessarily need To play JMAC. Moving Ant to SG makes some sense except for the fact that he is lazy on defense and Beasley at least tries. You say a random is better than Nowell I call BS. Did you even see summer league? Also your FA needs to be vet minimum.

SF: MCD at the 3 makes sense with Ant at the 2. This move is fine. Prince at the 3 is also fine in theory but when lined up with Beverly, ?, Prince, Vando, and ? You have no scoring on that unit. Plug in Bolmaro and Knight and you are basically running 4 non scores with a catch and shoot 3 point shooter.

PF: Simmons is an upgrade who makes KAT, Ant, Dlo, and MCD much easier to guard. Closes half your playbook and has a history of chocking in the playoffs. Vando as backup is fine with Naz and Nowell, and someone else to score, without them heaven help you.

C: You just lost your only KAT backup. One injury to KAT and you may as well forfeit every game he misses.

Oh, and while Layman is pretty bad, good luck finding someone better to shove at the end of your bench who has any defensive chemistry with our guys.

PG - so if DLo and Beverly get hurt were screwed If we keep Jordan or not.

SG - Edwards is the starting 2, not Beasley. Them doing anything other than Ant at the 2 is a mistake. And yes, McCaw and Robinson are as good or better than Nowell...maybe do some research. Ferguson is a solid vet as well.

SF - is solid.

PF - is solid

C - Reid is tough to lose, but if Kat gets hurt well, it's not like Reid saves the day. Again,backups can be signed.

Layman is trash.

Depth chart right now...

PG - DLo, Beverly,Jordan M, Wright
SG - Edwards, Beasley, Nowell,Bolmaro
SF - McDaniels,Prince, Okoge
PF - Vanderbilt, Knight
C - Towns, Reid

Vs

PG - DLo, Beverly, Wright
SG - Edwards, (Robinson FA), Bolmaro
SF - McDaniels, Prince
PF -Simmons, Vanderbilt, Knight
C - Towns, (Cousins or Gasol FA)

Which team wins more games?

[shangrila]

KGdaBom, you seem a little hypocritical.

When someone comments on the way you post, you tell them this is who you are (and you'll keep doing it). Yet, you get triggered over a word or phrase from another and expect them to change.

No I don't expect them to change at all.

This started with Think Tank having the nerve to tell me to quit using "you have your right to be wrong" while calling that a douche move. Talk about calling out my light gray pot while his kettle was pitch black.

Or to use a Biblical quote he's pointing out the speck of dust in my eye while a plank is sticking out of his.

I know the intent of that Biblical quote is to consider your own flaws before pointing out the flaws in others. I know I have plenty of flaws. However, after giving this some serious consideration, my saying you have your right to be wrong is not one of my significant flaws.

To be fair, "you have your right to be wrong" is an incredibly condescending way to say that you disagree. It not only presumes that the other person is wrong and you are right (without any evidence to back that up) but is also as if you're giving them permission to be wrong, which is a pretentious and arrogant thing to do.

Now, it might be fine for you personally but that's irrelevant. A conversation, no matter what medium its done through, requires 2 or more people. Therefore how others view your words is more important than how you yourself do. And people don't seem to be fans of it, so maybe just say you disagree?

[SO_MONEY]

KGdaBom, you seem a little hypocritical.

When someone comments on the way you post, you tell them this is who you are (and you'll keep doing it). Yet, you get triggered over a word or phrase from another and expect them to change.

No I don't expect them to change at all.

This started with Think Tank having the nerve to tell me to quit using "you have your right to be wrong" while calling that a douche move. Talk about calling out my light gray pot while his kettle was pitch black.

Or to use a Biblical quote he's pointing out the speck of dust in my eye while a plank is sticking out of his.

I know the intent of that Biblical quote is to consider your own flaws before pointing out the flaws in others. I know I have plenty of flaws. However, after giving this some serious consideration, my saying you have your right to be wrong is not one of my significant flaws.

To be fair, "you have your right to be wrong" is an incredibly condescending way to say that you disagree. It not only presumes that the other person is wrong and you are right (without any evidence to back that up) but is also as if you're giving them permission to be wrong, which is a pretentious and arrogant thing to do.

Now, it might be fine for you personally but that's irrelevant. A conversation, no matter what medium its done through, requires 2 or more people. Therefore how others view your words is more important than how you yourself do. And people don't seem to be fans of it, so maybe just say you disagree?

I don't agree with this. You can absolutely NOT care how people view your words, you just need to be self-aware and own it...

[Mattya]

Put your keyboards away and go outside, holy f

[Folklore]

Spoiler:

I don't think I've ever seen anyone put up such a stink over the word douche. Maybe if you embraced the douche you wouldn't have to stink.

It's pretty disgusting to use that word for anything other than what it actually is.

I was using it correctly, I was calling you a vagina. Hence the need for you to douche.

Oh SNAP!

No. -Dome

[shangrila]

No I don't expect them to change at all.

This started with Think Tank having the nerve to tell me to quit using "you have your right to be wrong" while calling that a douche move. Talk about calling out my light gray pot while his kettle was pitch black.

Or to use a Biblical quote he's pointing out the speck of dust in my eye while a plank is sticking out of his.

I know the intent of that Biblical quote is to consider your own flaws before pointing out the flaws in others. I know I have plenty of flaws. However, after giving this some serious consideration, my saying you have your right to be wrong is not one of my significant flaws.

To be fair, "you have your right to be wrong" is an incredibly condescending way to say that you disagree. It not only presumes that the other person is wrong and you are right (without any evidence to back that up) but is also as if you're giving them permission to be wrong, which is a pretentious and arrogant thing to do.

Now, it might be fine for you personally but that's irrelevant. A conversation, no matter what medium its done through, requires 2 or more people. Therefore how others view your words is more important than how you yourself do. And people don't seem to be fans of it, so maybe just say you disagree?

I don't agree with this. You can absolutely NOT care how people view your words, you just need to be self-aware and own it...

It's not about caring, it's about communicating. If what you say and what they interpret are two different things then the communication breaks down. That's the issue.

For example, feel free to insult someone if you want. But if you were to say "what a massive cock" and they took that as a compliment, then you're not getting your point across. And that's the whole reason we communicate.

[shangrila]

Put your keyboards away and go outside, holy f

Can't, still in lockdown.

[SO_MONEY]

To be fair, "you have your right to be wrong" is an incredibly condescending way to say that you disagree. It not only presumes that the other person is wrong and you are right (without any evidence to back that up) but is also as if you're giving them permission to be wrong, which is a pretentious and arrogant thing to do.

Now, it might be fine for you personally but that's irrelevant. A conversation, no matter what medium its done through, requires 2 or more people. Therefore how others view your words is more important than how you yourself do. And people don't seem to be fans of it, so maybe just say you disagree?

I don't agree with this. You can absolutely NOT care how people view your words, you just need to be self-aware and own it...

It's not about caring, it's about communicating. If what you say and what they interpret are two different things then the communication breaks down. That's the issue.

For example, feel free to insult someone if you want. But if you were to say "what a massive cock" and they took that as a compliment, then you're not getting your point across. And that's the whole reason we communicate.

It reminds me of the time I shot an elephant in pajamas.

[Folklore]

But seriously, what's going on with this board? It has turned into a safe space for Karens and people who can't take others opinion the way they want to express them.

I for one hate the thought of getting Simmons he's a glorified Rubio. If it costs more than prince and Bev. Or some combo of Prince a heavily protected first along with help from another team for a layman and pick trade for him.

There's no sense in trading for him right now because his value will only go down as our current players value will rise.
Towns and others on the team probably know by now that Nowel was told that he'd have a bigger role on the team. So Rosas would be smart to keep his word since he's big on family.

[shangrila]

But seriously, what's going on with this board? It has turned into a safe space for Karens and people who can't take others opinion the way they want to express them.

I for one hate the thought of getting Simmons he's a glorified Rubio. If it costs more than prince and Bev. Or some combo of Prince a heavily protected first along with help from another team for a layman and pick trade for him.

There's no sense in trading for him right now because his value will only go down as our current players value will rise.
Towns and others on the team probably know by now that Nowel was told that he'd have a bigger role on the team. So Rosas would be smart to keep his word since he's big on family.

Nothing to talk about and the Simmons stuff has basically had us at each other's throats for a while now. It's no great surprise we've wound up here.

[KGdaBom]

KGdaBom, you seem a little hypocritical.

When someone comments on the way you post, you tell them this is who you are (and you'll keep doing it). Yet, you get triggered over a word or phrase from another and expect them to change.

No I don't expect them to change at all.

This started with Think Tank having the nerve to tell me to quit using "you have your right to be wrong" while calling that a douche move. Talk about calling out my light gray pot while his kettle was pitch black.

Or to use a Biblical quote he's pointing out the speck of dust in my eye while a plank is sticking out of his.

I know the intent of that Biblical quote is to consider your own flaws before pointing out the flaws in others. I know I have plenty of flaws. However, after giving this some serious consideration, my saying you have your right to be wrong is not one of my significant flaws.

To be fair, "you have your right to be wrong" is an incredibly condescending way to say that you disagree. It not only presumes that the other person is wrong and you are right (without any evidence to back that up) but is also as if you're giving them permission to be wrong, which is a pretentious and arrogant thing to do.

Now, it might be fine for you personally but that's irrelevant. A conversation, no matter what medium its done through, requires 2 or more people. Therefore how others view your words is more important than how you yourself do. And people don't seem to be fans of it, so maybe just say you disagree?

If I disagree with someone no matter how I say it I am saying that IMO they are wrong and I am right. There is nothing wrong with that. I just think saying you have your right to be wrong is a funny way to say it. People are going to think you are wrong and I am wrong and whoever is wrong a million times a day. Why get your feelings hurt over somebody saying it in a way they feel is funny.

And just saying I disagree would be boring.

[Domejandro]

Temporarily banning Ben Simmons talk on the forum. On mobile, but I am going to gut through this thread and transfer the filler to the restricted forum later tonight.