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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#101 » by Mattya » Sat Mar 19, 2022 5:18 pm

Neeva wrote:Meh you are entitled to disagree some of you had the same criticism about Ant when he was at uga.


I was one of if not the biggest Ant and Lamelo believers on this board. Even when people were trying to trade the pick for John Collins and Okongwu or something.

The difference between Ant and Hardy should be pretty obvious. Ant was younger than Hardy is, in a college setting, on a team without talent, and had tippy top tier all time athleticism.

You’d have a better time convincing me Hardy could develop as a point guard than comparing him to two of the most athletic prospects in NBA history.
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Post#102 » by Neeva » Sat Mar 19, 2022 9:11 pm

We will see in a few years won’t we ..
Anyway too bad Arthur Kaluma isn’t 3-4 inches taller. I am still pretty intrigued though.
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Post#103 » by Neeva » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:20 am

Someone in the top 6 will regret taking Holmgren in the future. Just two years ago espn was hyping Chat/Emoni bates matchup and they both look so weak now :lol:
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Post#104 » by KGdaBom » Sun Mar 20, 2022 3:53 am

Neeva wrote:Someone in the top 6 will regret taking Holmgren in the future. Just two years ago espn was hyping Chat/Emoni bates matchup and they both look so weak now :lol:

He's certainly not having a good game scoring tonight. 4 blocks though is nice.
He just fouled out with 7 seconds to go.
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Post#105 » by wolves_89 » Sun Mar 20, 2022 4:10 am

Picking somewhere in the #18-20 range, I'm looking at drafting from the Mark Williams, Jeremy Sochan, or Nikola Jovic group. I think Williams would be the best outcome since he fills the size/rebounding/defense gap on the current roster.
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Post#106 » by Neeva » Mon Mar 21, 2022 1:43 am

I did not like what I saw from Kessler and Liddell today. Liddell is just too small to do anything in league as a post. Miami players were just going around Kessler quite easily.
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Post#107 » by Neeva » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:44 am

I really liked both Zona players Mathurin and Koloko. Hope Koloko is there for wolves in second.
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Post#108 » by minimus » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:57 am

Is Wendall Moore Jr. next the Jimmy Butler?
Is Nikola Jovíc the next Nikola Jovic?
Is Trevor Keels next Lu Dort?
Is Walker Kessler what healthy Justin Patton supposed to be?

I know it is not right time to be excited and overhyped for new draft, but sometimes I catch myself thinkin: what if we get Kessler, Moore Jr and Keels ?
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Post#109 » by Neeva » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:19 am

Kessler and Keels looked really bad in the tournament to me.
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Post#110 » by shangrila » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:21 am

minimus wrote:Is Wendall Moore Jr. next the Jimmy Butler?

No. He's solid, but more of a good role player. Probably more Josh Richardson with a decent shot.
Is Nikola Jovíc the next Nikola Jovic?

I'm assuming this is somewhat of a joke, but I don't think he's NBA calibre. He just lacks the physicality.
Is Trevor Keels next Lu Dort?

His defence is more reputation/theoretical than practical, so probably not.
Is Walker Kessler what healthy Justin Patton supposed to be?

Probably. I think the issue is whether we want a healthy Patton for this team.

If we're getting a C we need one that can move on the perimeter for our switch heavy scheme. I'm honestly not sure if either Kessler or Williams fits that. Tshiebwe might but he's not worth going for at 18.
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Post#111 » by minimus » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:13 am

shangrila wrote:If we're getting a C we need one that can move on the perimeter for our switch heavy scheme. I'm honestly not sure if either Kessler or Williams fits that. Tshiebwe might but he's not worth going for at 18.


Yes, as I said, I am biased and I dont follow draft candidates. I saw some name and quick comps. What I was looking for:

1) big wing with potential to be 2 way player, who can be drafted in 2nd round (like Jimmy Bulter)
2) mobile rim protector (like Rob Williams, Mitchel Robinson)
3) PoA defender (like Dort)
4) tough, physical PF/C (like Xavier Tillman)
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Post#112 » by Neeva » Mon Mar 21, 2022 10:18 am

I like
20. Hardy or Sochan or Agbaji

Seconds
Koloko, Tsheibwe, Procida or Jaquez Jr.
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Post#113 » by minimus » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:26 am

Neeva wrote:I like
20. Hardy or Sochan or Agbaji

Seconds
Koloko, Tsheibwe, Procida or Jaquez Jr.


It is me, or Sochan reminds Kyle Kuzma?
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Post#114 » by Mamba4Goat » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:35 pm

I’d love to see Minnesota find a way to land Hugo Besson or Walker Kessler in the late late first or early second.

I’d also love to see if the first+Naz could help them move a little bit if a solid player drops. If nobody cares enough for Naz to trade down I’d definitely understand. Duren would probably be my target.
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Post#115 » by Dosadi » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:57 pm

New ESPN draft up. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33546525/2022-nba-mock-draft-how-top-prospects-fared-ncaa-men-basketball-tournament

Wolves drafting 17 -
Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

Then
40. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Cavaliers via Wizards)
Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.3
Then
49. Minnesota Timberwolves
Drew Timme | Gonzaga | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 21.5
Then
53. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Nuggets)
Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 22.7

I'm.... Curious..... how they have us drafting 2 WF players in the second round.....
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Post#116 » by shangrila » Mon Mar 21, 2022 7:37 pm

minimus wrote:
Neeva wrote:I like
20. Hardy or Sochan or Agbaji

Seconds
Koloko, Tsheibwe, Procida or Jaquez Jr.


It is me, or Sochan reminds Kyle Kuzma?

Not really.

Physically, sure, but in terms of skillsets Kuzma was more of a scorer while Sochan is more of a defensive role player.
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Post#117 » by shangrila » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:22 pm

minimus wrote:
shangrila wrote:If we're getting a C we need one that can move on the perimeter for our switch heavy scheme. I'm honestly not sure if either Kessler or Williams fits that. Tshiebwe might but he's not worth going for at 18.


Yes, as I said, I am biased and I dont follow draft candidates. I saw some name and quick comps. What I was looking for:

1) big wing with potential to be 2 way player, who can be drafted in 2nd round (like Jimmy Bulter)

Big wing as in weight? Or height?

There's a few either way. Justin Lewis just had a brutal last game but he fits the mold. David Roddy isn't as tall but brings the weight and I like him assuming his quick feet translates to perimeter defence. And I'd throw in Dereon Seabron (probably butchered the name). He's a skinny 6-7 with no shot to speak of but is a relentless rim attacker that lives at the line and with enough playmaking to make teams pay. He might not come out though.
2) mobile rim protector (like Rob Williams, Mitchel Robinson)

I imagine everyone is looking for these. Oscar Tshiebwe fits, as does EJ Liddell (although his offence is questionable at this point). I really like Ismael Kamagate here as well. He's a big guy that should be able to operate in our scheme.
3) PoA defender (like Dort)

Everyone says Keels fits this, and he's got the physicality plus enough athleticism to do it adequately. But then I watch him and I'm not as impressed, so I don't know about him. Kennedy Chandler is a good option here although he's a purely 1 position player
4) tough, physical PF/C (like Xavier Tillman)

Tshiebwe again, maybe Liddell if you think he can play the 5 (I don't personally). Then there's a guy like Trevion Williams, who's a bit Greg Monroe like. And finally, if you want a really young option, Michael Foster might be worth a look.

Honestly, I think this draft sucks outside of a few guys. For where we're drafting I'd take a crack at Patrick Baldwin Jr, as I can see a role for him even if he doesn't develop much more as a 6-10 Malik. Tshiebwe would be great at 42 but I doubt he lasts that long. But if the FO were to trade out entirely I wouldn't care.
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Post#118 » by shrink » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:54 pm

Mamba4Goat wrote:I’d also love to see if the first+Naz could help them move a little bit if a solid player drops. If nobody cares enough for Naz to trade down I’d definitely understand. Duren would probably be my target.

I’m no draft guru, but I wonder what assets it would take to move up?

Could our pick and a 2023 1st, top 10 protected, could get us up to Keegan Murray? I am stunned he could lead he nation in scoring without many plays run for him. I think he would be, at a minimum, a great complimentary player, but his length could make him one of those highly valuable 3-d wings with big upside. His position may have dropped with his horrible game in the first round of the NCAA tournament, plus he’ll be 22 in August.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#119 » by shangrila » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:37 am

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Mamba4Goat wrote:I’d also love to see if the first+Naz could help them move a little bit if a solid player drops. If nobody cares enough for Naz to trade down I’d definitely understand. Duren would probably be my target.

I’m no draft guru, but I wonder what assets it would take to move up?

Could our pick and a 2023 1st, top 10 protected, could get us up to Keegan Murray? I am stunned he could lead he nation in scoring without many plays run for him. I think he would be, at a minimum, a great complimentary player, but his length could make him one of those highly valuable 3-d wings with big upside. His position may have dropped with his horrible game in the first round of the NCAA tournament, plus he’ll be 22 in August.

Probably not. Murray will still go top 10 and even in this crap draft they still go for a premium.

Giving up future picks for anyone in this draft would be a mistake. Hell, if we can move down and get a future first ourselves we should do it.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#120 » by KGdaBom » Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:27 am

Dosadi wrote:New ESPN draft up. https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/33546525/2022-nba-mock-draft-how-top-prospects-fared-ncaa-men-basketball-tournament

Wolves drafting 17 -
Ousmane Dieng | NZ Breakers | 6-10 | SF/PF | Age: 18.8

Then
40. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Cavaliers via Wizards)
Jake LaRavia | Wake Forest | 6-8 | PF | Age: 20.3
Then
49. Minnesota Timberwolves
Drew Timme | Gonzaga | 6-10 | PF/C | Age: 21.5
Then
53. Minnesota Timberwolves (from Nuggets)
Alondes Williams | Wake Forest | 6-5 | PG/SG | Age: 22.7

I'm.... Curious..... how they have us drafting 2 WF players in the second round.....

I'd be thrilled with Timme in the 2nd.

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