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Post#101 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jul 4, 2024 12:16 pm

minimus wrote:I wonder whats Shannon current weight. He looks really big standing next to Dillingham.

He is really big compared to Dilly. I'm guessing Shannon goes 220 or just a little more.
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Post#102 » by Sealab2024 » Thu Jul 4, 2024 1:16 pm

While the Wolves weren't a running team last year one thing they did really like to do was attack semi transition opportunities where they perhaps get a deep defensive rebound and push enough that the defense is back but not set yet. The wolves did it over and over to Denver. I don't know if the NBA considers that transition or not but TJ could be a devastating weapon in these situations by compounding good defensive possessions with quick And-1's on the other end. One of Ants specialties.
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Post#103 » by shrink » Thu Jul 4, 2024 2:56 pm

KGdaBom wrote:This was the year for Miller to make the leap, but now I see Shannon Leap Frogging him for minutes.

Maybe it’s all the Olympics coverage, but your post seemed built to make me remember Shannon Miller, the gymnast! :lol:
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Post#104 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:01 pm

Klomp wrote:Playing free safety against a pretty good quarterback!

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I've got a feeling Shannon will be a huge positive surprise. His skills should translate really well and he's physically ready to play with the big boys.
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Post#105 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:10 pm

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Zonarosa wrote:having just gotten back to the states the last few days, i must say i'm astounded at what was pulled off this summer.

Wasn't it an incredible draft?


Incredible might be an understatement. I'm still in shock TC making one great move after another. For over 30 years our front office rarely made any good moves. Ingles will help us too with his great outside shooting.

Is this really happening?
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Post#106 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:13 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Shannon and Dillingham throwing a pitch at a Twins game. Not impressive. Shannon was wearing 00 and Dillingham was wearing 4.


:lol: Stick to basketball boys!!

I saw the presser yesterday introducing those two. Both seem to be humble impressive young guys.
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Post#107 » by Nick K » Thu Jul 4, 2024 3:22 pm

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minimus wrote:I know it sounds like a broken record, but TSJ should absolutely model his game after Jimmy Butler. I dont like Butler as person, but as player he is a joy to watch. And TSJ reminds me a lot of young Jimmy:

- both are physical slashers who initially were considered as defensive minded players
- both are extremely quick and mobile
- both are 6'5 without shoes, with relative short wingspan, but strong body

Not a terrible physical comp, not sure why I hadn't thought of it before. Shannon is actually a decent amount longer though.

Butler: 6' 6'' with 6' 7.5'' wingspan, 222.2 pounds
Shannon 6' 5.75'' with 6' 8.75'' wingspan, 219.4 pounds


So you are saying there is a chance???

I mean I dont know why but the first thing I thought when I saw TSJ highlights is that he should RUN more. But after thinking for а few days I think that it would be waste of his talent. He should run a lot in MIN, but I think his first skills is physicality plus quickness. Crafty bully ball. He has a lot of reps as ballhandler in Illinois. MIN should use it. But again just like Bulter does:

- keep it simple
- dont force
- play under control
- read defense

Yes, MIN were 29th in fastbreak point last year. But also it drove me crazy when all of the sudden our players stopped to attack the rim. Yes, we should shoot more 3s, but it is all connected: keep attacking the rim, keep earning FTs, keep bending defense so they rotate and open perimeter for open threes.


Absolutely. No doubt about it.
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Post#108 » by Klomp » Thu Jul 4, 2024 7:16 pm

minimus wrote:I wonder whats Shannon current weight. He looks really big standing next to Dillingham.

219.4 at the combine
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Post#109 » by bastillon » Thu Jul 4, 2024 10:58 pm

Really impressed by what you guys did in this offseason. I like both of the rookies from the first round. I haven't seen this comparison mentioned yet but Shannon reminds me of Derrick Jones Jr. DJJ has a longer wingspan (7'0 over TSJ's 6'9) but practially the same height, similar weight, similar body types and both are shooting left handed. TSJ is a much better shooter though as DJJ is strictly a corner 3 guy, his range is limited, doesn't shoot well above the break and is only a career 70% FT shooter. TSJ is an elite corner shooter, has longer range that includes above the break 3s (albeit mediocre at it unless its wide open) and has a very good baseline as a shooter with 80% FTs. Moreover, another similarity lies in their rebounding as both are vastly underwhelming rebounders when taking into account how gifted they are athletically, posting around 10-12 DRB%. Shannon is clearly a much better ballhandler, slasher and scorer in general as DJJ is somewhat challenged offensively when it comes to scoring. The key for TSJ will be his defense, he looks really promising and can follow DJJ's example who gave Ant some issues in the WCF. Overall, looks like a much better version of Derrick Jones Jr which is a steal. Congrats, coming from a Celtics fan!
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Re: The Terrence Shannon Thread 

Post#110 » by minimus » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:12 am

The oldest player taken in the first round, Shannon succeeded as a fifth-year senior in large part because of his size and strength advantages, which won't entirely carry over to the NBA. In an off-ball role, Shannon's iffy 3-point shooting (36% last season, 35% career) will be emphasized.


Something to monitor is how coaches will define TSJ role while working on his development. Limit his off-ball activity to corner threes + cuts?
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Post#111 » by Nick K » Fri Jul 5, 2024 8:49 pm

I just heard Eric Mussellman talk about Shannon who coached against him at both schools he attended. He wasn't shy.

Eric says Shannon was a total beast to defend. Impossible going down hill. He has an NBA body and could kill it in the NBA. He says he can defend and is a monster transition finisher. He says Shannon wasn't a good pick for our Wolves but a great pick!

How about that? WOW!
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Post#112 » by Klomp » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:02 pm

Now this is interesting.... Shannon got the Jaylen Clark Treatment in 2022-23 against UCLA. Put up 29/10 on 9-13 FGs....mostly 3-pointers.

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Post#113 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:24 pm

Nick K wrote:I just heard Eric Mussellman talk about Shannon who coached against him at both schools he attended. He wasn't shy.

Eric says Shannon was a total beast to defend. Impossible going down hill. He has an NBA body and could kill it in the NBA. He says he can defend and is a monster transition finisher. He says Shannon wasn't a good pick for our Wolves but a great pick!

How about that? WOW!

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Post#114 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Jul 5, 2024 9:46 pm

Nick K wrote:I just heard Eric Mussellman talk about Shannon who coached against him at both schools he attended. He wasn't shy.

Eric says Shannon was a total beast to defend. Impossible going down hill. He has an NBA body and could kill it in the NBA. He says he can defend and is a monster transition finisher. He says Shannon wasn't a good pick for our Wolves but a great pick!

How about that? WOW!
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Post#115 » by Nick K » Fri Jul 5, 2024 11:38 pm

bastillon wrote:Really impressed by what you guys did in this offseason. I like both of the rookies from the first round. I haven't seen this comparison mentioned yet but Shannon reminds me of Derrick Jones Jr. DJJ has a longer wingspan (7'0 over TSJ's 6'9) but practially the same height, similar weight, similar body types and both are shooting left handed. TSJ is a much better shooter though as DJJ is strictly a corner 3 guy, his range is limited, doesn't shoot well above the break and is only a career 70% FT shooter. TSJ is an elite corner shooter, has longer range that includes above the break 3s (albeit mediocre at it unless its wide open) and has a very good baseline as a shooter with 80% FTs. Moreover, another similarity lies in their rebounding as both are vastly underwhelming rebounders when taking into account how gifted they are athletically, posting around 10-12 DRB%. Shannon is clearly a much better ballhandler, slasher and scorer in general as DJJ is somewhat challenged offensively when it comes to scoring. The key for TSJ will be his defense, he looks really promising and can follow DJJ's example who gave Ant some issues in the WCF. Overall, looks like a much better version of Derrick Jones Jr which is a steal. Congrats, coming from a Celtics fan!


Call me crazy but he reminds me some of ANT himself. Body and going to the net wise they are similar. He is easily one of the most NBA ready players in the draft. Just maybe he starts to have a real impact come January.
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Post#116 » by Klomp » Sat Jul 6, 2024 12:00 am

Eastern Conference executive No 2: He’s a damn good defender. Shooting is a little sporadic, but it’s gotten better. You talk about tough, now. He’s tough as s—. If he goes to a certain team, I could see him starting next year. He could start for us, probably.

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Post#117 » by Saltine » Sat Jul 6, 2024 11:08 am

College assistant coach No. 6 (his team played Illinois): He is a good player. Really good player. He’s the best player in college that I saw last year driving the ball in transition. It’s like LeBron in his heyday — those Miami days where he would just drive the ball as hard as he could, and run right into you. That’s what Shannon did. We’d have two guys standing there, locked arms, and he would run right into you. He’s a decent 3-point shooter. I question his character a little. They say he’s a hard worker, though. He prides himself, (Illinois coach) Brad Underwood swears he’s one of the best defenders in the country. But he played us and he could not wait for somebody to come up and set a screen so he could switch. But the kid is fearless. He’s got an incredible, athletic body. And he can run. He is a very, very talented player.

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Re: The Terrence Shannon Thread 

Post#118 » by Calinks » Mon Jul 8, 2024 2:32 am

I'm excited about the kid but yall got him looking like we just drafted the next Wemby/generational talent with some of these posts lol.
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Post#119 » by KGdaBom » Mon Jul 8, 2024 2:41 am

Calinks wrote:I'm excited about the kid but yall got him looking like we just drafted the next Wemby/generational talent with some of these posts lol.

I think we got a guy who can get minutes his rookie year.
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Post#120 » by Worm Guts » Mon Jul 8, 2024 2:42 am

The circumstance more than the player reminds me of Josh Howard. A senior from Wake Forest who was ACC player of the year fell to the end of the first round and became an all-star. Hopefully the same type of thing happens with Shannon.

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