Officlal Prospect thread

PeeDee · Post #101 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:00 pm

big3_8_19_21 wrote:I could see it happening legitimately, but it would be summer 2011 and Ellington would have to prove that he can play well at an NBA level and Rubio will have to show how special he is at that point and be willing to come to the NBA that summer. In that case, I could see a Rubio/Ellington for Gordon deal, but not before.

If Ellington proves he can play at the NBA level and Rubio confirms that he is special, then you don't trade them for an undersized SG.

Post #102 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:05 pm

hotshotschamp wrote:Cole Aldrich is pretty darn good, he's a top 4-10 player in this draft. He's more athletic than given credit for. Great size.

He's been incredibly productive in college, but he seems sort of average physically for the NBA. I'd say 8-12.

wolves_fan_82au · Post #103 » by **wolves_fan_82au** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:21 pm

any chance we could get 2 top 5 picks and grab Aldrich and Favors

Post #104 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:51 pm

Why would you target those 2, instead of say, a wing?

john2jer · Post #105 » by **john2jer** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:50 pm

wolves_fan_82au wrote:any chance we could get 2 top 5 picks and grab Aldrich and Favors

I'd hope if that somehow happened that we'd target a wing with one of those picks, seems to be our greatest hole.

Esohny · Post #106 » by **Esohny** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:19 pm

And if we're in the top 5, I'd take Turner over Aldrich anyway.

PeeDee · Post #107 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:35 pm

For those of you clamoring for Lopez on this team, Aldrich would be a good alternative I think. Better defense, runs the floor just as good... not as good of an offensive repertoire though.

That said, we need a wing and here comes Pippen 2.0

Post #108 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:42 pm

I'm not sure Aldrich is better on defense than Lopez.

PeeDee · Post #109 » by **PeeDee** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:51 pm

Ask Nets fans what they think about Lopez's defense.

Lopez isn't renowned for his defensive play. He's solid for sure, but his offense is his bread and butter. All the scouting reports I've read on Aldrich call him an excellent defender. When I compare the games I've watched with Aldrich in college to the games I've watched of Lopez in college, Aldrich appears to be the better defender to me as well.

Post #110 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:15 pm

I think Aldrich is going to have the same types of limitations as a defender as Lopez does, only he's probably not quite as long. Aldrich might a little more active, while Lopez seems to be more of a positional defender.

moss_is_1 · Post #111 » by **moss_is_1** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:29 pm

Aldrich is a pretty good defender. Great shotblocker. He's always altering shots, and makes some amazing blocks. He's a good positional defender too, he has pretty quick feet and he's got really long arms. It seems he's bulked up since last year as well. He can hit the midrange shot from time to time, and he's a great FT shooter. Gets good position in the post as well.

NewWolvesOrder · Post #112 » by **NewWolvesOrder** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:32 pm

he seems to be a better athlete than Lopez too.

Post #113 » by **Worm Guts** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:47 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:Aldrich is a pretty good defender. Great shotblocker. He's always altering shots, and makes some amazing blocks. He's a good positional defender too, he has pretty quick feet and he's got really long arms. It seems he's bulked up since last year as well. He can hit the midrange shot from time to time, and he's a great FT shooter. Gets good position in the post as well.

Aldrich is a great college defender, I'll give him that.

Post #114 » by **revprodeji** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:16 pm

I think Aldrich is a better defender then lopez. He seems stronger and more physical.

jpatrick · Post #115 » by **jpatrick** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 8:54 pm

I don't know. Lopez was a beast in college. I think his rebound numbers were hurt a bit because he had to share boards with another seven footer, Robin, and his defense and rebounding was hurt becasue he had to exert so much energy on the offensive end. He literally was their only offensive weapon. I think most NJ fans think he's just an ok one on one defender but he's very very good at protecting the rim, something we desperately need. I think right now at the age of 21, he's a top 5 center in the league (there aren't that many true centers out there).

This is all hindsight of course. I was concerned about his low shooting precentage and "stiffness" in that draft.

I don't think Aldrich will ever be able to get his own shot, either in the post or the perimeter, in the NBA, but he's got good length and a nice feel for the game. If he maxed out at 12 pts, 10 boards and 2 blocks, is that worth a top 8 selection? I think probably yes. He's a low risk low reward type.

I do want to get a look at the FSU center, the profiles make him out to be a super athletic seven footer who may or may not ever have the skills to match his athleticsm.

Foye · Post #116 » by **Foye** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:40 pm

Turner & Aldrich seems like a perfect draft for me

panth181 · Post #117 » by **panth181** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:18 pm

PeeDee wrote:Ask Nets fans what they think about Lopez's defense.

Lopez isn't renowned for his defensive play. He's solid for sure, but his offense is his bread and butter. All the scouting reports I've read on Aldrich call him an excellent defender. When I compare the games I've watched with Aldrich in college to the games I've watched of Lopez in college, Aldrich appears to be the better defender to me as well.

Lopez is bigger and a better athlete.

At the college level Aldrich seems to have a bigger impact on the defensive end - last night he was incredible, the only reason Kansas won the game in my mind.

At the same time, the two players were in extremely different situations. Aldrich gets to focus on his defense, and has teammates in front of him that can win their individual matchups. Lopez had to focus on being his team's #1 offensive option, and also had the benefit of his brother behind him as a weakside shot blocker.

I'll be interested to read what other folks think of Aldrich as an NBA player as we get closer to draft time. He's clearly going to be anything you could ever ask for in a college center, and has instincts in terms of physical play around the basket that can't be taught. He'll have a role in the NBA somewhere, without a doubt.

But how will he handle the increased athleticism of the NBA? Is he a star or a roleplayer?

moss_is_1 · Post #118 » by **moss_is_1** » Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:28 pm

I really don't think he'll be a star. But he's also the number one option at KU, not to the extent that Lopez was but still the #1 option.
I think in his prime he'll be a 13 12 3 block 2 assist guy, and shoot about 55 and 80 from the line. That's a very valuable guy to have for you, plus he's going to be a good man defender. He reminds me of a rich mans pryzbilla in a way(minnesota boys) anyone else?

hotshotschamp · Post #119 » by **hotshotschamp** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 3:13 am

ill take a center who can get 13/12 with 2 or 3 blocks per game and play D all day. Thats what this team needs bad. Heck we need anyone who can play D.

GopherIt! · Post #120 » by **GopherIt!** » Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:49 am

james harden wrote:
Steve_Holiday wrote:
hotshotschamp wrote:Get Turner as a SG, and Aminu as a SF?

I keep seeing posts like this. Where does the second lottery pick come from? My understanding is that we most likely won't have Charlotte's pick and Utah's won't be very valuable...

Trade??? trade Rubio? trade Jefferson? combine utah's, bobcats' pick, rights to Pekovic, Sessions? Kahn turned Foye and Miller into pick #5, he has a lot of assets next summer to work with.

Washington is stinking it up (again). Who knows, they might be good trade partners yet again.