Prospect Watch Thread

[RCG] · Post #1001 » by **[RCG]** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:08 pm

jpatrick wrote:Damn. P. Jones, Barnes and Sully all going back to school. Unless the NBA makes kids play two college seasons before entering the draft, next year's draft is going to stacked. The upcoming frosh class looks really solid. It wouldn't shock me if none of Jones, Barnes or Sully are top 5 picks next year. How did we get stuck w/o a pick ? Oh that's right, Adrian Lima's husband.

We can only hope that rule is implemented...

Krapinsky · Post #1002 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 3:26 pm

I guess I have to start talking myself into Burks now? (assuming Irving is off the board)

If we get #2 and Williams is the obvious choice, what do we do? TRADE is easier said than done. We're going to have a hard enough time finding enough minutes for Beasley, Randolph, and Love.

Esohny · Post #1003 » by **Esohny** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:29 pm

I'd prefer that the team trades the pick as well (preferably with a deal that has been decided before the draft). 1st choice would be using the pick in a package for a vet SG, 2nd choice would be trading down for Burks or everyone's new favorite Ibaka impersonator.

Ideally, maybe you could maybe trade Beasley in a package for a vet and keep Williams for the tweener/big SF role, but I don't see Beasley having nearly as much value as the 2nd pick.

Esohny · Post #1004 » by **Esohny** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:43 pm

Also, there's the possibility that the Wolves will take their usual drop in the lottery, but maybe get "lucky" in who jumps ahead of them. If Washington (or maaaaybe Sacramento, although they would probably still take Irving) jumps them, then maybe they take Williams at #1 and the Wolves back into the prospect they need.

moss_is_1 · Post #1005 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 4:49 pm

Esohny wrote:Also, there's the possibility that the Wolves will take their usual drop in the lottery, but maybe get "lucky" in who jumps ahead of them. If Washington (or maaaaybe Sacramento, although they would probably still take Irving) jumps them, then maybe they take Williams at #1 and the Wolves back into the prospect they need.

Good point. Washington, Milwaukee(possibly) would be the ones that I'd like to jump us if they did. I want Biyombo now that Barnes is staying, unless we can get a deal for Bogut(which is a longshot I'm sure), then we should either get Biyombo/Burks, or we should get one of them and trade the other for another pick next season if we can. Next year is going to be loaded, when Barnes who is a top 3 pick this season will be lucky to be a top 10 pick next year it's a good sign, we should have Utah's pick, and if we could get one more it could give us some flexibility next season to combine picks with another asset to try to get our star(if one hasn't emerged).

AQuintus · Post #1006 » by **AQuintus** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 5:54 pm

Krapinsky wrote:I guess I have to start talking myself into Burks now? (assuming Irving is off the board)

If we get #2 and Williams is the obvious choice, what do we do? TRADE is easier said than done. We're going to have a hard enough time finding enough minutes for Beasley, Randolph, and Love.

I'm pretty sure we have the lowest percentage chance of getting the #2 pick, so I wouldn't worry about Williams. If we do get 3 or 4, I would try to trade back or reach for Bismack.

Krapinsky · Post #1007 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:19 pm

We have a higher chance of getting the 2nd pick than any other team.

25.0% 1st pick
21.5% 2nd pick
17.8% 3rd pick
35.7% 4th pick
Expected value: 2.642

LOBO 7 · Post #1008 » by **LOBO 7** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:03 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUxKzucNsTo[/youtube]
:love:

theGreatRC · Post #1009 » by **theGreatRC** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:06 pm

If we get the #2 pick and Irving is off the board, package the pick to the Bucks for Bogut. A center rotation of Bogut/Darko would be top 5 defensively out of all the other center rotations IMO.

horaceworthy · Post #1010 » by **horaceworthy** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:18 pm

shangrila wrote:I still don't see why he would be a target for this team though. He's not an athlete, so it's questionable whether anything outside of his shooting will translate, and he's a defensive liability. Considering the log jam this team already has on the wings...why bother investing in another average one?

I'm not a Thompson fan, just about every game I've seen him in he's played godawful, but the bolded statement implies that the Wolves actually have an average wing.

horaceworthy · Post #1011 » by **horaceworthy** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:22 pm

theGreatRC wrote:If we get the #2 pick and Irving is off the board, package the pick to the Bucks for Bogut. A center rotation of Bogut/Darko would be top 5 defensively out of all the other center rotations IMO.

If Darko flipped out because Love wrote "Viva Croatia" on a whiteboard, how would he handle backing up Bogut?

horaceworthy · Post #1012 » by **horaceworthy** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:23 pm

Esohny wrote:I'd prefer that the team trades the pick as well (preferably with a deal that has been decided before the draft). 1st choice would be using the pick in a package for a vet SG, 2nd choice would be trading down for Burks or everyone's new favorite Ibaka impersonator.

Ideally, maybe you could maybe trade Beasley in a package for a vet and keep Williams for the tweener/big SF role, but I don't see Beasley having nearly as much value as the 2nd pick.

I'm hoping Utah falls in love with someone like they did with Deron Williams and the Wolves can trade back into Burks/Biyombo range and pick up that GSW 2012 pick in the process.

AQuintus · Post #1013 » by **AQuintus** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 8:28 pm

Krapinsky wrote:We have a higher chance of getting the 2nd pick than any other team.

25.0% 1st pick
21.5% 2nd pick
17.8% 3rd pick
35.7% 4th pick
Expected value: 2.642

My bad. I was confusing 2 and 3 and didn't bother to look it up.

Krapinsky · Post #1014 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:00 pm

I'm cool just taking Biyombo #2. Isn't he similar to Joakim Noah coming out of college, just with a better body? No offense, all hustle and defense? Seems like a great fit to put next to Love and a nice compliment to Darko.

PeeDee · Post #1015 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 9:52 pm

I'm fine with taking Bizzy high too. With this **** of a draft, might as well try to take the KG/Westbrook type swing for the fences and hope like hell it doesn't turn out like Candyman.

Post #1016 » by **Klomp** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:01 pm

I'd probably take him at 1.

Devilzsidewalk · Post #1017 » by **Devilzsidewalk** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:05 pm

we know Biyombo isn't going to contribute offensively and it usually takes a few seasons minimum for players to learn good NBA paint defense, especially w/ how raw Biyombo is...plus the lockout is going to slow down his development...we might not be getting value for Biyombo for like 5 years

PeeDee · Post #1018 » by **PeeDee** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:16 pm

Bizzle Dizzle can still play in Europe during the money grab.

phonzadellika · Post #1019 » by **phonzadellika** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:29 pm

It would be utterly crappy if we took Biyombo and then both he and Rubio stuck around in europe for 2012. Ugh.

I suppose I'd be cool with trading anything but the number 1 for a vet who matters, a shot at Biyombo later in the lottery, and Jimmer with the Memphis pick.

I'd also be ok with Williams at 2, even with the multitude of problems that would cause.

Vindicater · Post #1020 » by **Vindicater** » Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:50 pm

LOBO 7 wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUxKzucNsTo[/youtube]

The problem with watching this clip is that he just looks like a man amongst boys.

So is he Dwight Howard or Leon Smith though?

(Both guys who just dominated there age levels due to being bigger and stronger)