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2023 Free Agency

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1001 » by BlacJacMac » Wed Feb 21, 2024 9:26 pm

Stephenson, by comparison, is filling up the stat sheet: 15 PPG, 7.6 RPG, 5.1 APG, but he's shooting 44/31 doing it.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1002 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 21, 2024 11:55 pm

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I'm a bit surprised that the Wolves didn't reward one of their G-League guys like Martin or Stephenson with the 10-day contract. It's highly unlikely that whoever they signed was going to play a single meaningful minute.

In general I agree, but the Wolves are urgently win-now, as they compete for home court advantage. And while Jackson may not even be as good as some Iowa Wolves, he’s still a seven year NBA vet who should know enough to go to the right spots on the floor and do his job, no on-the-job training required. You’re right, he may not take the floor, but he’s useful in a small roll if we need him. I also think that since this is a 10-day (not a vet min), the Wolves are delaying their choices for vet min to not miss out on anyone. We need 13+ on the roster, but vet min signings are eligible for the playoffs if they are signed before the end of the month.

Virtually any other year, I’m with you - reward the G-League with a 10 day.

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1003 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 22, 2024 10:14 pm

https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/news/spurs-marcus-morris-still-away-from-team/

This is a really bad look for the Spurs so far. They have very real ties to us through Victor, the possibility of us trading them Kyle, Tre is from Minnesota, ect… That Morris isn’t even with the team and they still won’t buy him out, is as Bite Bite would say “Little Funky.”

https://youtu.be/bh9cKy2ixzU?si=xvNCSGhecmWXwM8A

Starts at 1:04 but 1:17 is when he says it.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1004 » by TimberKat » Fri Feb 23, 2024 3:13 pm

Otto Porter Jr. should be available on buyout soon, how is he compare with Marcus Morris?
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1005 » by minimus » Fri Feb 23, 2024 4:15 pm

Poku?
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1006 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:18 pm

Honestly, if I knew I couldn’t have Morris, then OPJ would be my one season pickup. If I wanted a next season young guy dirt cheap it would be Poku.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1007 » by NebWolvesFan » Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:00 pm

OPJ is always hurt. I would stay away. I'm fine with Justin Jackson if Morris can't spring free.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1008 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 23, 2024 6:05 pm

NebWolvesFan wrote:OPJ is always hurt. I would stay away. I'm fine with Justin Jackson if Morris can't spring free.


So is Hayward, but we would have signed him.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1009 » by winforlose » Wed Feb 28, 2024 5:00 pm

“Stephen Curry helped advise Donte DiVincenzo on signing with Knicks over Timberwolves


DiVincenzo signed with the Warriors for $4.5 million and thrived. Then, in 2023, he walked into a friendlier market. His relationship with Stephen Curry grew enough in their one season together that DiVincenzo made an important call in the early days of free agency. Once again, a year later, he sought Curry’s advice. “It was on FaceTime,” Donte DiVincenzo said. “He and his family were there and his security, our team security. They’re people that I don’t take their opinion lightly.” The Minnesota Timberwolves, per league sources, were a serious suitor with a real chance to sign DiVincenzo. A few other teams had significant offers on the table. The choices were weighing on a sixth-year guard about to earn his largest-ever contract. “He reached out about New York specifically and what he should do, what I thought he should do,” Curry said. “When you have gained trust in someone to call, pick up the phone, it means a lot, especially for a guy who was only here for a year.” 54 mins ago – via The Athletic”

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1010 » by minimus » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:16 am

So no Marcus Morris (rumour has it that SAS might not negotiate with him buyout, simply let him walk after March 2nd, because he did not keep his word in 2019), no Joe Harris, no Mike Muskala?
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1011 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 29, 2024 10:06 pm

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1012 » by TwolvesFanRome » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:14 pm

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1013 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:18 pm

Interesting. Doogie thinks he's coming here, Jon K does not.

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1014 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:23 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:Interesting. Doogie thinks he's coming here, Jon K does not.

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I think Doogie is placing his belief in the Beverley report, while Jon K is simply saying we haven't really heard more steam beyond the initial tweet from Pat. They are both technically right in how they came to their differing stances.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1015 » by Worm Guts » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:33 pm

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BlacJacMac wrote:Interesting. Doogie thinks he's coming here, Jon K does not.

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I think Doogie is placing his belief in the Beverley report, while Jon K is simply saying we haven't really heard more steam beyond the initial tweet from Pat. They are both technically right in how they came to their differing stances.


I’d like to think good reporters are going to have opinions based on more than publicly available tweets.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1016 » by winforlose » Thu Feb 29, 2024 11:47 pm

Am I missing something or isn’t the waiting period 48 hours for him to clear waivers? I might be misremembering, but we were talking about this before the break.

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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1017 » by wolves_89 » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:15 am

The thing with Marcus Morris is that he can't sign with BOS, DEN, LAC, LAL, PHI, GSW, MIL, MIA, or PHO. That leaves few contending level options, with the Wolves potentially being the most attractive destination.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1018 » by m2002brian » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:33 am

winforlose wrote:Am I missing something or isn’t the waiting period 48 hours for him to clear waivers? I might be misremembering, but we were talking about this before the break.

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Here’s what I found:

NBA: buyouts vs waivers

While waivers are also about getting rid of a player, they are not as mutual as buyouts.

A waiver is a one-sided decision a team takes to cut a player from their roster. There is no negotiation between the player and the team, which works best for teams looking to clear a roster spot as easily as possible.
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1019 » by winforlose » Fri Mar 1, 2024 12:53 am

m2002brian wrote:
winforlose wrote:Am I missing something or isn’t the waiting period 48 hours for him to clear waivers? I might be misremembering, but we were talking about this before the break.

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Here’s what I found:

NBA: buyouts vs waivers

While waivers are also about getting rid of a player, they are not as mutual as buyouts.

A waiver is a one-sided decision a team takes to cut a player from their roster. There is no negotiation between the player and the team, which works best for teams looking to clear a roster spot as easily as possible.


Logistically the difference is the buyout is negotiated with the team getting a discount instead of paying the full remainder on the contract. But for the purposes of acquiring him, I believe it is a distinction without a difference. Prior to the break we were talking about him being bought out and taking 2 days to clear waivers. I don’t think anything has changed. Unless I am missing something?
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Re: 2023 Free Agency 

Post#1020 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Mar 1, 2024 1:00 am

winforlose wrote:Am I missing something or isn’t the waiting period 48 hours for him to clear waivers? I might be misremembering, but we were talking about this before the break.

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You are correct. He does not become a Free Agent until 48 hours after being waived.

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q64

And he absolutely will clear waivers. No team is going to pick up his 17M salary.

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