Trade Talk (Part 14): 2023-24 Edition
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Kuminga or Huerter could be interesting. Kuminga just has a ton of raw talent, but can't shoot. Huerters shooting would be great, not sure how we can really reach his salary without gutting a lot of the team,though.
I guess Slomo + Wendell + Shake or Brown gets you there, but we'd need a player or 2 coming back. Slomos defense and playmaking could really help the Kings.
I guess Slomo + Wendell + Shake or Brown gets you there, but we'd need a player or 2 coming back. Slomos defense and playmaking could really help the Kings.
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minimus wrote:BlacJacMac wrote:minimus wrote: I wonder if we had a chance to get Quickley and Anunoby for Towns... Is this dramatically enough?
Would've been ideal, but what does Toronto get?
Two NYK picks, RJ Barrett. We get Anunoby, Quickley and Fournier, one NYK FRP
Toronto turns that down in a heartbeat.
Quickley was the centerpiece of the deal for them. They're not trading OG for middling picks.
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moss_is_1 wrote:Kuminga or Huerter could be interesting. Kuminga just has a ton of raw talent, but can't shoot. Huerters shooting would be great, not sure how we can really reach his salary without gutting a lot of the team,though.
I guess Slomo + Wendell + Shake or Brown gets you there, but we'd need a player or 2 coming back. Slomos defense and playmaking could really help the Kings.
Is Huerter on trade block? I don't think Kuminga would be happy here, if he's upset getting 22 minutes per game in Golden State, I don't know if we would have more minutes for him.
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I mean, they won a Championship in large part due to Andrew Wiggins’ play during that Playoff run, so still pretty awesome.
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twolves31 wrote:moss_is_1 wrote:Kuminga or Huerter could be interesting. Kuminga just has a ton of raw talent, but can't shoot. Huerters shooting would be great, not sure how we can really reach his salary without gutting a lot of the team,though.
I guess Slomo + Wendell + Shake or Brown gets you there, but we'd need a player or 2 coming back. Slomos defense and playmaking could really help the Kings.
Is Huerter on trade block? I don't think Kuminga would be happy here, if he's upset getting 22 minutes per game in Golden State, I don't know if we would have more minutes for him.
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While I like Kevin Huerter a lot (despite his brutal shooting, this season), trading Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton, and Troy Brown Jr. for him - while eating his poor contact - would require some incentive. My guess is that Sacramento is gearing up to make a big splash.
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Domejandro wrote:While I like Kevin Huerter a lot (despite his brutal shooting, this season), trading Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton, and Troy Brown Jr. for him - while eating his poor contact - would require some incentive. My guess is that Sacramento is gearing up to make a big splash.
Yeah Sacramento screams 'big splash' to me too. I could actually see them in the Siakam sweepstakes, or someone like that.
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Klomp wrote:Domejandro wrote:While I like Kevin Huerter a lot (despite his brutal shooting, this season), trading Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton, and Troy Brown Jr. for him - while eating his poor contact - would require some incentive. My guess is that Sacramento is gearing up to make a big splash.
Yeah Sacramento screams 'big splash' to me too. I could actually see them in the Siakam sweepstakes, or someone like that.
We should sit there like Piranha's trying to get value as the 3rd team like we did with the Dlo-to-Lakers deal.
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shrink wrote:shrink wrote:Unless the Wolves go into a very dramatic tailspin in the next month, I think it’s very unlikely Tim Connelly trades Towns.
With the new owners gaining controlling interest in the next few weeks, they don’t want the public to see their very first move to be trading a star on the best Wolves team in decade, to save themselves tax money. More likely, they will use the public interest in the Wolves to ask the city for support in building a new arena. The Wolves have the second oldest in the NBA. The Twin Cities have every major sport and a Big Ten university with sports downtown, so the public doesn’t support teams that are doing poorly - they have many options. Now, would be the exact time that they might get support for a levy, for more money than they would lose in lux taxes.
In the end, the Wolves need Towns offense to make a legitimate run in the playoffs, and Tim Connelly needs a playoff run to justify his Gobert trade. Towns has been a loyal soldier to the team his entire career, through many bad seasons. I highly doubt the team will trade him.
I agree this is true if the team traded Towns for expirings and firsts. Trading for a package revolving around Julius Randle could be marketed as a lateral move to casual fans, for example.
Ultimately it would all come down to winning. If the team does or doesn't do well is what matters, not who is on the roster.
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Sounds like the Hawks are open for business too. Everyone except Young and another player is off limits according to the article. Murray is included in the available players it seems...
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Guest84 wrote:Sounds like the Hawks are open for business too. Everyone except Young and another player is off limits according to the article. Murray is included in the available players it seems...
What happened to AJ Griffin?
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Yea Murray stopped following the Hawks and took everything Hawks related off his social media over a week ago. reminds me of DLO before he got traded to LA.
I’d do Slowmo for Kuminga.. Maybe Finch can fix him more than Kerr.
I’d do Slowmo for Kuminga.. Maybe Finch can fix him more than Kerr.
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Klomp wrote:Domejandro wrote:While I like Kevin Huerter a lot (despite his brutal shooting, this season), trading Kyle Anderson, Shake Milton, and Troy Brown Jr. for him - while eating his poor contact - would require some incentive. My guess is that Sacramento is gearing up to make a big splash.
Yeah Sacramento screams 'big splash' to me too. I could actually see them in the Siakam sweepstakes, or someone like that.
Those three kings players seem like negatives to me. They will have to give up a lot of draft capitol to improve from those three.
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Neeva wrote:Yea Murray stopped following the Hawks and took everything Hawks related off his social media over a week ago. reminds me of DLO before he got traded to LA.
I’d do Slowmo for Kuminga.. Maybe Finch can fix him more than Kerr.
I would move KAT for Murray/Johnson but Atlanta not moving Johnson. I think he’s a future star.
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jpatrick wrote:Neeva wrote:Yea Murray stopped following the Hawks and took everything Hawks related off his social media over a week ago. reminds me of DLO before he got traded to LA.
I’d do Slowmo for Kuminga.. Maybe Finch can fix him more than Kerr.
I would move KAT for Murray/Johnson but Atlanta not moving Johnson. I think he’s a future star.
In a heartbeat.
Johnson is getting 15 points on great shooting, 8 rebounds, 3 assists and 2 stocks in 30 minutes. And he's a plus defender.
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Why are we still making Towns trade proposals?
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Note30 wrote:Why are we still making Towns trade proposals?
Because at the end of the day, there are still some hard realities to accept about the situation we're in. It doesn't guarantee a trade, but there is absolutely a discussion internally.
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Note30 wrote:Why are we still making Towns trade proposals?
Ant is on the rise. Jaden and Rudy are our defensive anchors. Mike has become our MVP, and at his age and contract situation we wouldn’t move him even if we wanted too. That leaves KAT. KAT is also going to a super max. If you could move for him for Markkanen and a PG of the future we should. Twin towers is a strength and a shooting big who is a step down but who is a standard max is not gonna cripple us.
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shangrila wrote:shrink wrote:Unless the Wolves go into a very dramatic tailspin in the next month, I think it’s very unlikely Tim Connelly trades Towns.
With the new owners gaining controlling interest in the next few weeks, they don’t want the public to see their very first move to be trading a star on the best Wolves team in decade, to save themselves tax money. More likely, they will use the public interest in the Wolves to ask the city for support in building a new arena. The Wolves have the second oldest in the NBA. The Twin Cities have every major sport and a Big Ten university with sports downtown, so the public doesn’t support teams that are doing poorly - they have many options. Now, would be the exact time that they might get support for a levy, for more money than they would lose in lux taxes.
In the end, the Wolves need Towns offense to make a legitimate run in the playoffs, and Tim Connelly needs a playoff run to justify his Gobert trade. Towns has been a loyal soldier to the team his entire career, through many bad seasons. I highly doubt the team will trade him.
I agree this is true if the team traded Towns for expirings and firsts. Trading for a package revolving around Julius Randle could be marketed as a lateral move to casual fans, for example.
Maybe we could spin it that way to casual fans, but Randle is worse offensively, worse defensively, doesn’t have Towns’ loyalty to MIN, and we don’t know if Randle is willing to help Ant and Gobert shine.
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shrink wrote:shangrila wrote:shrink wrote:Unless the Wolves go into a very dramatic tailspin in the next month, I think it’s very unlikely Tim Connelly trades Towns.
With the new owners gaining controlling interest in the next few weeks, they don’t want the public to see their very first move to be trading a star on the best Wolves team in decade, to save themselves tax money. More likely, they will use the public interest in the Wolves to ask the city for support in building a new arena. The Wolves have the second oldest in the NBA. The Twin Cities have every major sport and a Big Ten university with sports downtown, so the public doesn’t support teams that are doing poorly - they have many options. Now, would be the exact time that they might get support for a levy, for more money than they would lose in lux taxes.
In the end, the Wolves need Towns offense to make a legitimate run in the playoffs, and Tim Connelly needs a playoff run to justify his Gobert trade. Towns has been a loyal soldier to the team his entire career, through many bad seasons. I highly doubt the team will trade him.
I agree this is true if the team traded Towns for expirings and firsts. Trading for a package revolving around Julius Randle could be marketed as a lateral move to casual fans, for example.
Maybe we could spin it that way to casual fans, but Randle is worse offensively, worse defensively, doesn’t have Towns’ loyalty to MIN, and we don’t know if Randle is willing to help Ant and Gobert shine.
Randle was an example, not the point.
Whether we keep or trade Towns is irrelevant in a vacuum for the scenario you presented. Nobody comes out just to see Towns play, we've got his entire career as evidence of this. People will come out to see a winning team, however, regardless of who's on it.
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