Official Anthony Edwards Thread

[_AIJ_]

Anthony Edwards could join Curry and Luka and the only rookie in NBA history to finish with more than 150 3s, 325 rebounds and 75 steals - and he did that in a shortened season. It's time we realize he has had a great age 19 season.

People only look at the negatives my guy.

[Slim Tubby]

Anthony Edwards could join Curry and Luka and the only rookie in NBA history to finish with more than 150 3s, 325 rebounds and 75 steals - and he did that in a shortened season. It's time we realize he has had a great age 19 season.

Thank you, thank you, thank you!


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[Nick K]

I don't know how some people here expect a 19 year old kid with no summer league and very little training camp to be a perfect player. The criticisms here, while many valid, are often like killing a fly with a sledge hammer. If I wanted to I could find plenty to criticize any NBA player.

We criticize in these forums. That's what we do but let's be more balanced. A few of you, Jeddz for example, is only one, brutalize the guy and rarely talk about his many positives. I think you guys should have more realistic expectations.

Ant has already done things only a rare few have done so cut him some slack. He's our future. Go back and look at LeBron's first 2 years he made a ton of mistakes. That's to be expected.

Ant is making more progress than I ever dreamed he'd make this soon. His physical play is James Harden like.

I know many of you liked Melo and take it out on Ant but get over it. Melo ain't walking through that door. It's my personal view that Melo is about as good as he's going to be right now. Ant is blowing up and has tons of upside still.

He's our guy now so let's get behind him. As the saying goes, "be hearty with your praise and gentle with your criticism".

[Playmaker17]

Oh please. Have you seen all his interviews? He brings this upon himself. Just like I bring such response back in kind for posting a few too many stupid thoughts myself. The difference? I can accept I got it wrong and admit it. We have a rookie running roughshod over our team's season this year and he can do no wrong in his mind. He's got plenty...plenty to learn yet.

You are the reason I created an account. The moron de jour, leading all your little junkies in this forum in your crusade to marginalize a 19 year old kid. This kid has already accomplished more in his life than most ever will. Your ignorance about Edwards snd where he grew up clearly shows here. How he talks and acts is authentic. It’s where he grew up. You foolishly hold this against the young man. It’s pathetic and borderline racist unless I miss my mark regarding you. Grow up. Root for your team....cheer for Ant. If you can’t do it, I pity you

There is nothing racist about noticing him shooting 31 times a couple days after his coach tells the public he wants him on a ratio of more net driving than chucking. Nothing racist about him acting overly confident about everything. He's just young and nobody ever said he wasn't. Exuberant, great. Excited to play, great. Claiming when his shots start going in we "won't be talking about this stuff anymore"...needs to be reeled in. I'm guessing you've seen all his interviews by now. Show one ounce of realization that you are a rookie and you have things to learn yet before you actually deserve those starting minutes and some of the things he is claiming. Because even this bad record team has three other players that shoot with higher consistency and percentage. Learn to use them. The other night, he made the right decision using Beasley. We are going to have to see more of that.

There is nothing wrong with someone with the team or around him giving him a heads up about some of what he's saying either. You want me to cheer for him, I want starters who know when to pass and when to shoot. I want Pro's starting. I happen to believe the drafting of him, in the role he demands to play, and then starting him basically ruined the season for the timberwolves. So excuse me for not being excited about it. You can believe what you want. That's more on Rosas and that's who I've complained about more. Edwards is just who he is as a young guy, this much I understand. And maybe you haven't been around here enough to see them, but I've posted recognition of how quickly he can build up the scoring. I think we can all see that potential. It's just not starter consistent. So on a scale of a highschool player to Lebron James, where do you think he falls in line? You tell me. That's where I think his confidence and claims should fall inline.

I think you’re the only person on the planet who calls out a player for going 15 of 31 for 42 points in a win. Since the 14th game of the year, Ant as averaged nearly 21 ppg and 5 rpg on 44% shooting. Not bad for a 19-year-old kid

[Sugarless]

I think you’re the only person on the planet who calls out a player for going 15 of 31 for 42 points in a win. Since the 14th game of the year, Ant as averaged nearly 21 ppg and 5 rpg on 44% shooting. Not bad for a 19-year-old kid

41%, with a 51.7% TS. For the year he's yet to reach 40% in FG and 50% in TS (almost there), which is still very, very low and inefficient, and it hurts even more when the kid is taking more shots per minute and per 100 possessions than anyone not named Russell (including Towns, who's far and away the best scorer on the team).

Then you have to add the fact that he's rather clueless on defense -but most of all that he doesn't really care about that end of the floor-, and that he's got nearly as many TOs as he has assists (1.2 A/TO ratio), and yet he seems to think that he's the next great thing and that he's doing a great job overall. So you can see why many are not sold on him and his lack of self-accountability.

Still, while clearly not very mature yet, Edwards looks like a nice kid and he's certainly not without talent, so hopefully he finds his way and becomes a much better player on both ends over the next couple of seasons. Just be aware that it won't happen if everyone around him is just coddling him and telling him how great he is.

[Klomp]

I think you’re the only person on the planet who calls out a player for going 15 of 31 for 42 points in a win. Since the 14th game of the year, Ant as averaged nearly 21 ppg and 5 rpg on 44% shooting. Not bad for a 19-year-old kid

41%, with a 51.7% TS. For the year he's yet to reach 40% in FG and 50% in TS (almost there), which is still very, very low and inefficient, and it hurts even more when the kid is taking more shots per minute and per 100 possessions than anyone not named Russell (including Towns, who's far and away the best scorer on the team).

Then you have to add the fact that he's rather clueless on defense -but most of all that he doesn't really care about that end of the floor-, and that he's got nearly as many TOs as he has assists (1.2 A/TO ratio), and yet he seems to think that he's the next great thing and that he's doing a great job overall. So you can see why many are not sold on him and his lack of self-accountability.

Still, while clearly not very mature yet, Edwards looks like a nice kid and he's certainly not without talent, so hopefully he finds his way and becomes a much better player on both ends over the next couple of seasons. Just be aware that it won't happen if everyone around him is just coddling him and telling him how great he is.

A player's efficiency doesn't necessarily mean he should be taking the most shots, just like less efficiency doesn't necessarily mean less shots. Jud Buechler had a higher TS% than Michael Jordan in 1997-98, are you going to say he should've had a higher volume than Jordan?

[Sugarless]

Jud Buechler had a higher TS% than Michael Jordan in 1997-98, are you going to say he should've had a higher volume than Jordan?

You are an adult. In your 30s, if I remember correctly. How are you still not aware of how these dim-witted answers reflect on you?

And how -after more than a decade- have you not yet learned that they're not gonna cut it with me? Try harder. And better.

[Klomp]

Jud Buechler had a higher TS% than Michael Jordan in 1997-98, are you going to say he should've had a higher volume than Jordan?

You are an adult. In your 30s, if I remember correctly. How are you still not aware of how these dim-witted answers reflect on you?

And how -after more than a decade- have you not yet learned that they're not gonna cut it with me? Try harder. And better.

And your response to the first part of my post?

[Sugarless]

Jud Buechler had a higher TS% than Michael Jordan in 1997-98, are you going to say he should've had a higher volume than Jordan?

You are an adult. In your 30s, if I remember correctly. How are you still not aware of how these dim-witted answers reflect on you?

And how -after more than a decade- have you not yet learned that they're not gonna cut it with me? Try harder. And better.

And your response to the first part of my post?

There's nothing to reply to the first part of your post, really. Either you believe that efficiency should have no part in the equation and you are ok with .499 true-shooter Edwards taking more shots than KAT and second most on the roster -in which case you'd be yet again showing you're unable to learn through experience- or you don't, and you're just being dishonest and trying to waste our time.

[Klomp]

You are an adult. In your 30s, if I remember correctly. How are you still not aware of how these dim-witted answers reflect on you?

And how -after more than a decade- have you not yet learned that they're not gonna cut it with me? Try harder. And better.

And your response to the first part of my post?

There's nothing to reply to the first part of your post, really. Either you believe that efficiency should have no part in the equation and you are ok with .499 true-shooter Edwards taking more shots than KAT and second most on the roster -in which case you'd be yet again showing you're unable to learn through experience- or you don't, and you're just being dishonest and trying to waste our time.

It is part, I agree. But it isn't everything.

[Sugarless]

And your response to the first part of my post?

There's nothing to reply to the first part of your post, really. Either you believe that efficiency should have no part in the equation and you are ok with .499 true-shooter Edwards taking more shots than KAT and second most on the roster -in which case you'd be yet again showing you're unable to learn through experience- or you don't, and you're just being dishonest and trying to waste our time.

It is part, I agree. But it isn't everything.

I never said it is everything. What I said especifically is that his inefficiency is more detrimental as it comes with very high volume and at the expense of other players / better shots, but you never went into that. You just came up with Jud Buechler and Michael Jordan (and I could have answered back in your same fashion with "so you're equating KAT to Jud Buechler and Edwards to MJ", but there's no point).

[Klomp]

I really could have used a number of examples. Ervin Johnson had a higher TS% than KG in the MVP year (KG was 5th on the team). Want me to go on?

In our specific case, it shouldn't come as a surprise than a big man shoots higher percentages than a perimeter player.

[Worm Guts]

I really could have used a number of examples. Ervin Johnson had a higher TS% than KG in the MVP year (KG was 5th on the team). Want me to go on?

In our specific case, it shouldn't come as a surprise than a big man shoots higher percentages than a perimeter player.

Those are silly examples and not conducive to real discussion.
KAT isn’t Ervin Johnson, he’s legitimately capable of being a volume scorer.

[Sugarless]

I really could have used a number of examples. Ervin Johnson had a higher TS% than KG in the MVP year (KG was 5th on the team). Want me to go on?

In our specific case, it shouldn't come as a surprise than a big man shoots higher percentages than a perimeter player.

None of those examples would be relevant, as you insist on proving once and again. You're talking about a center who shoots more than 8 3PA per 100 possessions versus a wing whose main strength is attacking the basket, so the big man / perimeter player narrative won't work, not in 2021 and not with these two players. To top it all, you're now equating a modern all-around ultra-efficient high-scoring big like KAT with a prototypical 1990's grunt and career 4 PPG scorer like Ervin freaking Johnson. And you still feel confident enough to come at me with that "want me to go on".

I don't know if you're trying to disguise your lack of arguments or if you're just oblivious to it (I tend to think it's the second, hence your seriously misplaced cockiness). Whatever the case, I don't really care. I'm not wasting any more of my time and this is where this conversation ends.

[Nick K]

OK Sugarless, let's put it this way. Take 2 SG's. One averages 24 per game but is somewhat inefficient like Ant at .499. The other guy averages 10 pts per game but is more efficient like .588. Which guy do you want to go with?

Obviously it's great to have a guy do both. I have a question for you, how many shots per every 10 that you take will get Ant from .499 to a very good .588? It's not very many. It may be only one to 1.5 more shots every 10 which is pretty insignificant.

Also, look at the horse bleep team that surrounds Ant. He's one of our only scoring options so we have to go to the well with him. Teams don't have to aggressively guard other guys so they concentrate on Ant so it's no surprise his ts% is somewhat lower. Also you don't know what the coaches are telling him to do. None of us really know, even if we have an idea.

Sure we'd like Ant to be more efficient but let's put things in perpecive. Advanced stats are helpful but not the end all.

Lastly, look at Ant's ts% over the last 20 games. Look at his overall numbers in his last 20 games. This kid is getting better in a big way. Why not focus a little more on that?

[Worm Guts]

You can’t win if you have a guy averaging 24 ppg at .499 TS. Of course the efficiency matters.

[Playmaker17]

I think you’re the only person on the planet who calls out a player for going 15 of 31 for 42 points in a win. Since the 14th game of the year, Ant as averaged nearly 21 ppg and 5 rpg on 44% shooting. Not bad for a 19-year-old kid

41%, with a 51.7% TS. For the year he's yet to reach 40% in FG and 50% in TS (almost there), which is still very, very low and inefficient, and it hurts even more when the kid is taking more shots per minute and per 100 possessions than anyone not named Russell (including Towns, who's far and away the best scorer on the team).

Then you have to add the fact that he's rather clueless on defense -but most of all that he doesn't really care about that end of the floor-, and that he's got nearly as many TOs as he has assists (1.2 A/TO ratio), and yet he seems to think that he's the next great thing and that he's doing a great job overall. So you can see why many are not sold on him and his lack of self-accountability.

Still, while clearly not very mature yet, Edwards looks like a nice kid and he's certainly not without talent, so hopefully he finds his way and becomes a much better player on both ends over the next couple of seasons. Just be aware that it won't happen if everyone around him is just coddling him and telling him how great he is.

His shooting and efficiency has steadily improved as the year progressed. Still takes too many 3’s. He really should only shoot a 3 if it’s within the offensive set and on rhythm. He is nearly unstoppable attacking the rim and its a quality very few have. It’s what makes him such a rare an unique talent. Just imagine him 3 years from now as he learns the nuance of the NBA game.

And they all struggle defensively early on. Lebron did, Kobe did and AE is. But he has nice instincts as seen by his steal numbers. He has all the natural skills to be a plus defensive player.

[TwolvesFanRome]

19ys old with that talent?
According to me In a team with no PO aspiration, in a year of tank to grab #1 #2 or #3 every single shot taken today is a brick for more efficiency tomorrow..

Now the important thing is not his efficiency but his growth and I think that's why the coach and the team allow him to take shots.

[Nick K]

You can’t win if you have a guy averaging 24 ppg at .499 TS. Of course the efficiency matters.

Nonsense. You can win with that guy if you have 4 other decent players and a bench to go with it. Conversly, if Ant had a .600 ts% with the rest of the Wolves minus Kat you are not going to win. Simple as that.

[Klomp]

You can’t win if you have a guy averaging 24 ppg at .499 TS. Of course the efficiency matters.

I don't think anyone here has ever argued that Edwards doesn't need to continue to improve. But some seem to think that he won't possibly do so.

Zach LaVine had a .499 TS% as recently as his first season in Chicago. That would indicate to some that he isn't deserving of a large role on a good team, yet here he is fighting to get his team in the postseason.