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Post#1081 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:52 am

He can shoot just fine from mid-range, and how many people are really that good of shooters coming out of college anyway? He has a very good handle for being so young, really quick, can finish through contact pretty well despite his small frame, and he can rebound and make a few plays. The biggest thing we need is a star(or even just a guard to create his own shot consistently). Burks should be able to get his own shot whenever he needs to, and he played damn good in some big games for Colorado this year.

Defense is all about effort, half the NBA doesn't play defense most the time. He has good measurables, he just needs the desire.
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Post#1082 » by YamiRain » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:18 am

so they said we could select biyombo with the #1 pick
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Post#1083 » by The J Rocka » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:32 am

YamiRain wrote:so they said we could select biyombo with the #1 pick

Yeah it was brought up by Thorpe over at ESPN, just to throw something out there, nothing unrealistic though. He feels that Bismack is the PERFECT piece to put next to Love (can't argue with that) and that bigmen who can defend don't come around that much anymore. You can't teach his length. He does bring up that we definitely should consider Irving but I think he's a firm believer that Rubio will be here.

To get a chance to upgrade at center & put that defender next to Love would be something special.
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Post#1084 » by The J Rocka » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:34 am

moss_is_1 wrote:He can shoot just fine from mid-range, and how many people are really that good of shooters coming out of college anyway? He has a very good handle for being so young, really quick, can finish through contact pretty well despite his small frame, and he can rebound and make a few plays. The biggest thing we need is a star(or even just a guard to create his own shot consistently). Burks should be able to get his own shot whenever he needs to, and he played damn good in some big games for Colorado this year.

Defense is all about effort, half the NBA doesn't play defense most the time. He has good measurables, he just needs the desire.

Fair points. I'll admit I just watched highlights of him & read a bunch about his game. I just think we have enough young guys on this squad already and that we should be looking at proven NBA talent/veterans.

I feel like the clock is ticking and we need to start getting some wins & get that impact/proven player. I don't want to take a gamble on another young guy and hope he can pan out in a year or two. We gotta show Love we have something worth sticking around for.
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Post#1085 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:52 am

Is Biyombo good offensively?
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Post#1086 » by The J Rocka » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:00 am

ALICEinJAM wrote:Is Biyombo good offensively?

Raw offensively. Not his strength, he'll power through inside get a nice dunk or putback off a miss. He's long so he can take off far and stretch his arm for a finger roll layup. He was attacking at the rim to get to the FT line. He's got the quickness in the post, just needs to polish up scoring from there, which he will as he grows as a player in this league. That's why he's a great fit with Love. Love will provide the scoring while BB will go to work defensively and attack the basket.
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Post#1087 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:04 am

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ALICEinJAM wrote:Is Biyombo good offensively?

Raw offensively. Not his strength, he'll power through inside get a nice dunk or putback off a miss. He's long so he can take off far and stretch his arm for a finger roll layup. He was attacking at the rim to get to the FT line. He's got the quickness in the post, just needs to polish up scoring from there, which he will as he grows as a player in this league. That's why he's a great fit with Love. Love will provide the scoring while BB will go to work defensively and attack the basket.


So, he's Ibaka?
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Post#1088 » by Beas » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:11 am

We don't really need to get any more younger so the only way we should take Burks is if he somehow drops to the 20th pick, which likely won't happen. We should really be focusing on getting vets rather than taking chances on even more rookies such as Burks imo.
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Post#1089 » by The J Rocka » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:28 am

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ALICEinJAM wrote:Is Biyombo good offensively?

Raw offensively. Not his strength, he'll power through inside get a nice dunk or putback off a miss. He's long so he can take off far and stretch his arm for a finger roll layup. He was attacking at the rim to get to the FT line. He's got the quickness in the post, just needs to polish up scoring from there, which he will as he grows as a player in this league. That's why he's a great fit with Love. Love will provide the scoring while BB will go to work defensively and attack the basket.


So, he's Ibaka?

Yes, that's the closest/most common comparison. He needs that skilled bigman next to him to thrive.
Ibaka has Perkins, BB would have Love.

A player that Biyombo often gets compared to is Oklahoma City’s Serge Ibaka. Both players are from the Congo and they also share similar body types and styles. However, Biyombo is hesitant to push this comparison too far:

“We pretty much similar, but not completely. I will never gonna be Serge and he will never gonna be me. The way it is, I really do respect it, and I talk to everybody that Serge is first and not me, so he’s good friend to me. I like him – I’m not sure I’m going to be 100% Serge and he’s not going to be 100% me. But there is at some points, people are going to say we’re pretty similar. You know, good body, we block shots, which allow us to be good defender, we run on the floor, so I can say we’re pretty similar.”


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Post#1090 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Apr 22, 2011 3:50 am

Yes, that's the closest/most common comparison. He needs that skilled bigman next to him to thrive.
Ibaka has Perkins, BB would have Love.

Im sold. I hope he adapts the game quickly though. Or else, we'll be shaking our heads again on a daily basis :(
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Post#1091 » by shangrila » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:22 am

ALICEinJAM wrote:
Yes, that's the closest/most common comparison. He needs that skilled bigman next to him to thrive.
Ibaka has Perkins, BB would have Love.

Im sold. I hope he adapts the game quickly though. Or else, we'll be shaking our heads again on a daily basis :(

Or, you know, people could show some patience for once
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Post#1092 » by _AIJ_ » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:40 am

shangrila wrote:
ALICEinJAM wrote:
Yes, that's the closest/most common comparison. He needs that skilled bigman next to him to thrive.
Ibaka has Perkins, BB would have Love.

Im sold. I hope he adapts the game quickly though. Or else, we'll be shaking our heads again on a daily basis :(

Or, you know, people could show some patience for once

You're right. Patience is a virtue.
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Post#1093 » by Vindicater » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:59 am

If we take Biyombo over Irving then I will die alittle on the inside.
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Post#1094 » by Esohny » Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:59 pm

Vindicater wrote:If we take Biyombo over Irving then I will die alittle on the inside.


I think everyone means that they would take Biyombo when the Wolves miss on the 1st pick. At least I hope that's what they mean.
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Post#1095 » by Worm Guts » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:29 pm

shangrila wrote:
ALICEinJAM wrote:
Yes, that's the closest/most common comparison. He needs that skilled bigman next to him to thrive.
Ibaka has Perkins, BB would have Love.

Im sold. I hope he adapts the game quickly though. Or else, we'll be shaking our heads again on a daily basis :(

Or, you know, people could show some patience for once


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Post#1096 » by Casperkid23 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:34 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:He can shoot just fine from mid-range, and how many people are really that good of shooters coming out of college anyway? He has a very good handle for being so young, really quick, can finish through contact pretty well despite his small frame, and he can rebound and make a few plays. The biggest thing we need is a star(or even just a guard to create his own shot consistently). Burks should be able to get his own shot whenever he needs to, and he played damn good in some big games for Colorado this year.

Defense is all about effort, half the NBA doesn't play defense most the time. He has good measurables, he just needs the desire.

No he can't and you can use that excuse on everyone, doesn't change that he's not a good defender.
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Post#1097 » by revprodeji » Fri Apr 22, 2011 4:50 pm

We should make up a term for when we all clearly want a certain type of prospect, but that prospect does not exist so we project that skill-set on another prospect.
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Post#1098 » by moss_is_1 » Fri Apr 22, 2011 5:14 pm

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moss_is_1 wrote:He can shoot just fine from mid-range, and how many people are really that good of shooters coming out of college anyway? He has a very good handle for being so young, really quick, can finish through contact pretty well despite his small frame, and he can rebound and make a few plays. The biggest thing we need is a star(or even just a guard to create his own shot consistently). Burks should be able to get his own shot whenever he needs to, and he played damn good in some big games for Colorado this year.

Defense is all about effort, half the NBA doesn't play defense most the time. He has good measurables, he just needs the desire.

No he can't and you can use that excuse on everyone, doesn't change that he's not a good defender.

His mid-range game isn't terrible, he just needs to settle down when he shoots. He takes off-balance jumpers, but he has the ability to get hot from there, so he's a streaky shooter. Also something that he should be able to improve upon with his shot is getting more arc on it, plus the fact that the NBA coaches should be able to fix his shot so he doesn't lean/fade on it(like what we were doing with Brew).

You can't say that for everyone, because some people just don't have the tools/athleticism to defend. He has long arms, quick feet, and great speed.

I just think everyone is downplaying him too much with his shot and defense. I look at how much he improved since committing to Colorado, his shot creating skills, the fact that he wasn't just a chucker, and his athleticism. Also you can improve your shot, and focus more on defense, you can't get more athletic(not considerably at least), and you can't teach his mentality to score.
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Post#1099 » by PeeDee » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:13 pm

Burks is a player that would go in the 20s most years. This draft sucks.
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Post#1100 » by Devilzsidewalk » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:19 pm

revprodeji wrote:We should make up a term for when we all clearly want a certain type of prospect, but that prospect does not exist so we project that skill-set on another prospect.


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