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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1081 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:09 am

andyhop wrote:
Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


KAT should just ask for a trade on opening night if that is the starting line up

About all we can do otherwise is move Edwards to SF and either start Rubio or Beasley over Culver/Okogie.
Which is exactly what I'd do. Rubio, Russell, Edwards, Juancho, and KAT.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1082 » by Nick K » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:29 am

Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1083 » by raise_21_up » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:33 am

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Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.


I'd swap Edwards and Beasley and run that lineup to start the season. I think it's going to take Edwards awhile to adjust to the pros, learn the playbook and he doesn't have a lot of time now. I'm also a firm believer in making him earn a starting spot. Culver and Okogie are obviously very similar players especially on the defensive side. One thing I will add, and this may mean nothing at all just a thought, Culver has a little playmaking ability compared to Okogie who is more of the slasher/spot-up type. Maybe this will result with Culver playing alongside Beasley, and Edwards with Okogie. I'm guessing these guys will all play a lot with each other and will come down to matchups/who's hot more than my theory, but my 2 cents nonetheless.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1084 » by Nick K » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:20 am

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Nick K wrote:
Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.


I'd swap Edwards and Beasley and run that lineup to start the season. I think it's going to take Edwards awhile to adjust to the pros, learn the playbook and he doesn't have a lot of time now. I'm also a firm believer in making him earn a starting spot. Culver and Okogie are obviously very similar players especially on the defensive side. One thing I will add, and this may mean nothing at all just a thought, Culver has a little playmaking ability compared to Okogie who is more of the slasher/spot-up type. Maybe this will result with Culver playing alongside Beasley, and Edwards with Okogie. I'm guessing these guys will all play a lot with each other and will come down to matchups/who's hot more than my theory, but my 2 cents nonetheless.


That's very realistic.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1085 » by Andri » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:54 am

IMO, there is no way Rubio won't start, for many reasons.

What I don't see clear is if Edwards will start from the beginning of the season, or he will be getting used to the league from the bench, and eventually move to the starting lineup.

Then, our weakest starting spot will be PF, and un general, defence will be a concern depending on the PF approach
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1086 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:17 am

Nick K wrote:
Wolves21 wrote:Russell/Rubio
Edwards/Beasley
Okogie/Culver
Hernangomez/Layman
Towns/Davis

That should be the depth chart and rotation with Reid,Vanderbilt and McLaughlin only getting burn if injuries and McDaniels & Hagans should be mostly in the G League getting a ton of minuets.


Hernangomez and Okogie are clearly NOT starters. Culver will start before Okogie, and he's iffy.

Edwards should play plenty of SF I would think.

I think Hernangomez is CLEARLY our starter at PF or big wing or whatever.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1087 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 27, 2020 9:20 am

Andri wrote:IMO, there is no way Rubio won't start, for many reasons.

What I don't see clear is if Edwards will start from the beginning of the season, or he will be getting used to the league from the bench, and eventually move to the starting lineup.

Then, our weakest starting spot will be PF, and un general, defence will be a concern depending on the PF approach

I think it's very likely that day one Edwards will come off the bench. As soon as he does anything to get excited about he will move into the starting line up.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1088 » by RiRuHoops » Fri Nov 27, 2020 11:26 am

Rubio/(Russel)
Russel/Beasley
Edwards/Culver or Okogie
Gomez/Layman
KAT/Davis
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1089 » by Dewey » Fri Nov 27, 2020 12:14 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Rubio/(Russel)
Russel/Beasley
Edwards/Culver or Okogie
Gomez/Layman
KAT/Davis

Pretty close to where I see it early on, but I’d keep Okogie in the bucket with Rube, Beas, Russell.

I also see Davis bump ahead of Reid. Vanderbilt will remain a wildcard.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1090 » by andyhop » Fri Nov 27, 2020 3:08 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Rubio/(Russel)
Russel/Beasley
Edwards/Culver or Okogie
Gomez/Layman
KAT/Davis


Swap Edwards for whichever of Culver or Okogie looks the closest to competent in training camp and I think that will be the line up to start the season
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1091 » by Norseman79 » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:13 pm

KG has been right, Wolves will start Beas and Edwards on the wings with Russell at point and Juancho and Kat up front. What I found interesting was that we were in on guys who I would consider a 3. DJJ for example. They know our Fs need attention, which is honestly why I am sure we will see a trade before long for a starting 3 or 4, or maybe both.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1092 » by thinktank » Fri Nov 27, 2020 4:57 pm

The use of of initials in the NBA is out of control. Just type a guys name out, please!

Who is DJJ?

And why would I know his initials on a Wolves board?
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1093 » by Slim Tubby » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:02 pm

5 - KAT/Davis/Reid
4 - Hernangomez/Layman/Edwards
3 - Culver/Edwards/Okogie/Layman
2 - Beasley/Edwards/Russell/Culver/
1 - Russell/Rubio

That’s how I’m guessing the minutes will be spread out by position. Until I see Vanderbilt actually play NBA minutes, I can’t allocate time to him yet. McDaniels, McGlaughlin and Nowell seemed destined for the G League.

The “fun” lineup will be:

C Towns
F Edwards
F Beasley
G Russell
G Rubio

That lineup better score at will. Stopping the other team and rebounding could be a real nightmare but what basically amounts to a 4-guard lineup would be exciting to watch for short bursts every game.


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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1094 » by Calinks » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:15 pm

I don't think Rubio is going to fight being the 6th man. He will still get plenty of playtime and probably be in during the crucial moments of the game. Minutes will be crowded but I'm not too worried. There will likely be injuries, Beasley is very likely to be suspended for some games, there will also be some kind of load management for guys like Russell I bet so yea, Rubio will get several starts, a lot of guys will miss games or have reduced minutes for some games. There will be a lot of PT going around.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1095 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Nov 27, 2020 5:27 pm

Calinks wrote:I don't think Rubio is going to fight being the 6th man. He will still get plenty of playtime and probably be in during the crucial moments of the game. Minutes will be crowded but I'm not too worried. There will likely be injuries, Beasley is very likely to be suspended for some games, there will also be some kind of load management for guys like Russell I bet so yea, Rubio will get several starts, a lot of guys will miss games or have reduced minutes for some games. There will be a lot of PT going around.
Exactly why Rubio should start... There's plenty of minutes for almost everybody.
Because is going to be a matter of time until people start to question why Rubio isn't starting... And is a matter of motivation. Rubio can say whatever he wants about just helping the team out. But kinda sucks that after 3 years of the best basketball of his life, at 30yo, in his prime being relegated to the bench...

Playing alongside a player (not that good) kinda similiar to Booker and Mitchell.

Also is the best intrested of the team to set a defensively tone since the minute one of the games. Russell and Beasley defensively would be a disaster...
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1096 » by RiRuHoops » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:00 pm

Beasley is textbook undersized all offense little defense gunner off the bench. For guy who just screwed up off the court you reward him with big contract and starting job? I don't get it honestly.

Give him 30 minutes off the bench to put up some scoring numbers and see if you can swap him for A.Gordon mid season.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1097 » by Merc_Porto » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:08 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Beasley is textbook undersized all offense little defense gunner off the bench. For guy who just screwed up off the court you reward him with big contract and starting job? I don't get it honestly.

Give him 30 minutes off the bench to put up some scoring numbers and see if you can swap him for A.Gordon mid season.
Exactly...

And is like, why we are going to put Rubio in the bench in first place if he's suppose to get the same minutes as coming off the bench...

If is all about the rotation and if Rubio is going to play the same amount of minutes with Russell, Beasley coming of the bench or not etc...

Is confusing that people are trying to create a problem here where there isn't one.

Is all about rotation, not who's starting.
Imagine that conversation...

Hey Ricky you starting off the bench!
Why?
Is a Timberwolves thing to do, find problems where don't exist...

If Rubio was declining in his carrer with the need of playing limited minutes, ok, i get it, this way is just crazy.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1098 » by Calinks » Fri Nov 27, 2020 6:47 pm

In our system, a shooter like Beasley is very important. I'm not going to say he can't come off the bench but I think the team is invested in making him our starting 2. He is younger, probably hungrier for the start, and likely a huge key cog in our offense. Rubio and Russell can provide elite play at the 1, I get that we can put Russell at the 2 but I think it's best he play the 1 and we have an amazing back up in Rubio.

There will probably be matchups and games where Rubio does start, I don't think he will see his role on this team as less than because he has an all-star starting in the position ahead of him. He will be crucial and a huge player on this team doing what he does with the second unit and starters, and closing out games. I think people are seeing it as this slap in the face or punishment but I doubt Rubio views it as that and he shouldn't. He's been around the block and he knew the deal before the trade went down if he isn't starting.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1099 » by Dewey » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:16 pm

Ricky knows the scoop - they all talked prior to the trade to assure he is flexible. Beasley is likely happy to not be behind bars at the moment. Edwards don’t know what he don’t know. Okogie and Culver know roles to survive. I see no issue letting chips fall week by week and focus on chemistry rather than minutes. This isn’t a fairy tale where everyone is gonna be a winner winner chicken dinner
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1100 » by KGdaBom » Fri Nov 27, 2020 7:22 pm

RiRuHoops wrote:Rubio/(Russel)
Russel/Beasley
Edwards/Culver or Okogie
Gomez/Layman
KAT/Davis

That's the lineup I want to see. :D

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