Trade Talk (Part Five)

theGreatRC · Post #1081 » by **theGreatRC** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:53 am

I was watching Booker highlights last night and wondered how he could get on this team and I think the only way is if these things all align:

-Suns are way below expectations and have another losing season

-Wolves have a good season, make the playoffs and look like they are one piece away from contending, which intrigues Booker more than just wanting to play with his two best buds, so he demands a trade here.

-Edwards has a ROY season, Culver looks good in his limited minutes and looks like he can take off in an expanded role elsewhere and Beasley kills it for us as expected.

That will give us assets to move + we'll have our 2022 1st pick since 2021 will already be the Warriors pick.

Let me dream ok?

Neeva · Post #1082 » by **Neeva** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 2:56 am

If Paul misses time, first part is likely. They will really miss Ricky.

If Edwards , culver and Beasley all play well this season that offer should be more than enough imo (and money works as well).

old school 34 · Post #1083 » by **old school 34** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:03 am

shrink wrote:
Neeva wrote:
IceManBK1 wrote:Aaron Gordon for Culver, Okogie, future protected 1st next? I still believe in you, Rosas!

I cant anymore stop overvaluing Gordon jesus.

Or at least suggest legal trades.

The only way we could match his $18.1 mil is trading Rubio, or Beasley when FA’s become trade eligible .. probably in February.

Yeah, Gordon type deal...or anyone in that price range...just would be difficult to come up with currently with rules on who can be traded currently.

One thing that could still be considered....take a Nowell, Culver, or Okogie and flip them for a similar pf type (as I believe Davis is primarily just a backup C at this point....still very useful piece though). Ie-- Nowell to Bucks for DJ Wilson or Culver get you PJ Tucker & a pick back?

Unless they really believe Vanderbilt gets his shot to crack rotation to see where he's really at?

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KGdaBom · Post #1084 » by **KGdaBom** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 3:11 am

old school 34 wrote:
shrink wrote:
Neeva wrote:
I cant anymore stop overvaluing Gordon jesus.

Or at least suggest legal trades.

The only way we could match his $18.1 mil is trading Rubio, or Beasley when FA’s become trade eligible .. probably in February.
Yeah, Gordon type deal...or anyone in that price range...just would be difficult to come up with currently with rules on who can be traded currently.

One thing that could still be considered....take a Nowell, Culver, or Okogie and flip them for a similar pf type (as I believe Davis is primarily just a backup C at this point....still very useful piece though). Ie-- Nowell to Bucks for DJ Wilson or Culver get you PJ Tucker & a pick back?

Unless they really believe Vanderbilt gets his shot to crack rotation to see where he's really at?

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They have been raving about Vanderbilt. Maybe he is now a ready for prime time player. They know better than we do.

Post #1085 » by **Mamba4Goat** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:28 am

From the second both deals were signed I’ve thought Beasley for Jerami Grant makes way too much sense. Detroit has no SG’s but is decently deep at PF. Minnesota is weak at PF and is decently deep at SG.

minimus · Post #1086 » by **minimus** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:48 am

minimus wrote:I must go and sleep, but when I wake up, I hope to see Evans and Spellman traded and JMac and Martin re-signed for team friendly deals.

What a beautiful morning! Hope I hope Rosas will bring back our Jordan.

Neeva · Post #1087 » by **Neeva** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:00 am

I dont want Grant on that contract though. Maybe Culver for Doumbouya?

Neeva · Post #1088 » by **Neeva** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:02 am

minimus wrote:
minimus wrote:I must go and sleep, but when I wake up, I hope to see Evans and Spellman traded and JMac and Martin re-signed for team friendly deals.

What a beautiful morning! Hope I hope Rosas will bring back our Jordan.

No more Martin wolves pulled QO though.

shangrila · Post #1089 » by **shangrila** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:08 am

Neeva wrote:
minimus wrote:
minimus wrote:I must go and sleep, but when I wake up, I hope to see Evans and Spellman traded and JMac and Martin re-signed for team friendly deals.

What a beautiful morning! Hope I hope Rosas will bring back our Jordan.

No more Martin wolves pulled QO though.

Not too suprising but I thought he and DLo are tight.

Midw35t · Post #1090 » by **Midw35t** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 11:58 am

Neeva wrote:
minimus wrote:
minimus wrote:I must go and sleep, but when I wake up, I hope to see Evans and Spellman traded and JMac and Martin re-signed for team friendly deals.

What a beautiful morning! Hope I hope Rosas will bring back our Jordan.

No more Martin wolves pulled QO though.

Do we still have the option of offering a 2-way?

Post #1091 » by **Klomp** » Mon Nov 23, 2020 1:23 pm

Midw35t wrote:
Neeva wrote:
minimus wrote:
What a beautiful morning! Hope I hope Rosas will bring back our Jordan.

No more Martin wolves pulled QO though.

Do we still have the option of offering a 2-way?

Read on Twitter

old school 34 · Post #1092 » by **old school 34** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:00 am

Klomp wrote:
Midw35t wrote:
Neeva wrote:

No more Martin wolves pulled QO though.

Do we still have the option of offering a 2-way?

Read on Twitter

So once we sign JMac to that 15th spot....then, we could technically come back to Martin back on that second 2-way....they just won't do that until they sort out JMac's future....need to keep our matching rights there.

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old school 34 · Post #1093 » by **old school 34** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 4:03 am

Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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Neeva · Post #1094 » by **Neeva** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:06 am

Hunter looks like a bust and already 23 before season starts.

wolves_89 · Post #1095 » by **wolves_89** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:17 am

old school 34 wrote:Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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I'd rather stick with Culver. He is a year younger and was the better player last season.

jpatrick · Post #1096 » by **jpatrick** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:40 am

wolves_89 wrote:
old school 34 wrote:Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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I'd rather stick with Culver. He is a year younger and was the better player last season.

Was he the better player? Every offensive statistic would say otherwise. Plus Hunter has the defensive versatility to play either forward spot, which is something we critically need. He’s a legit 6’8” with 7’2” wingspan. He’s similar physically to OG Anunoby.

I don’t know who will be better down the road, I think Culver has a higher upside while Hunter is a better fit.

Neeva · Post #1097 » by **Neeva** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:46 am

He’s 6’6 and a half though and only averaged more points because he played more minutes than Culver. atlanta was horrible defensively, I find his defense overated.
Would like to see how Culver does this season.

wolves_89 · Post #1098 » by **wolves_89** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 5:58 am

jpatrick wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
old school 34 wrote:Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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I'd rather stick with Culver. He is a year younger and was the better player last season.

Was he the better player? Every offensive statistic would say otherwise. Plus Hunter has the defensive versatility to play either forward spot, which is something we critically need. He’s a legit 6’8” with 7’2” wingspan. He’s similar physically to OG Anunoby.

I don’t know who will be better down the road, I think Culver has a higher upside while Hunter is a better fit.

Pretty much every advanced stat had Culver as being modestly better than Hunter last season. If Culver can maintain the 38% 3pt shooting he had over the last 30 games, I think he is clearly the better prospect.

shrink · Post #1099 » by **shrink** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 7:25 am

jpatrick wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:
old school 34 wrote:Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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I'd rather stick with Culver. He is a year younger and was the better player last season.

Was he the better player? Every offensive statistic would say otherwise. Plus Hunter has the defensive versatility to play either forward spot, which is something we critically need. He’s a legit 6’8” with 7’2” wingspan. He’s similar physically to OG Anunoby.

I don’t know who will be better down the road, I think Culver has a higher upside while Hunter is a better fit.

Hunter: -2.9 OBPM, -1.8 DBPM, -4.7 BPM. -1.4 VORP
Culver: -3.3 OBPM, -0.7 DBPM, -4.0 BPM. -0.8 VORP

Hunter turns 23 in a couple weeks. Culver turns 22 in mid February.

It’s really hard to judge rookies, and very few are positive players. That said, I expected better out of Hunter, especially with his age. He was one of the five worst players in basketball last year. Maybe he turns it around. At a minimum, at least Culver appears to not be awful on one side of the ball.

I had forgotten about the wingspan, and you said something very appealing to me - OG Anunoby. Hmmm ....

Midw35t · Post #1100 » by **Midw35t** » Tue Nov 24, 2020 12:24 pm

old school 34 wrote:Still think there's a Culver for Hunter deal that makes sense for both sides....what else would we need to put in that to get it done?

Nowell or Bolmaro...make it happen?

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I highly doubt Rosas targeted a player and traded up to get them in back-to-back drafts to trade them away in a package for another project prospect. Only in a deal for a proven or ascending star.

I personally want to ride it out with Culver.