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Around the NBA (Part Two)

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1121 » by TimberKat » Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:44 pm

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winforlose wrote:The truth is most teams need 2 or 3 stars to contend, regardless of position. But role players can fill in the stat gap and that can be more than enough. For example, if Jaden or Naz score 20 and grab 10 to 15 other stats (stocks, rebounds, assists,) then they are that nights star. Add Randle, NAW, DDV, occasionally Mike, and sometimes Rudy to this mix and you have more than enough star power on any given night. Likewise a Jaylen Brown or Kyrie Irving or Chet/JW can have a bad game and their team lacks star power that night.
agree with 200%. However, role players cannot fill the star/stat gap because what separates a role player and a star player is the consistency of how often they put up star numbers. Corey Brewer could fill the super star gap but only one night (52 points) of his career.


Which is why having 6 or 7 who can do it often enough is good enough. Please point out Houston’s 3 stars to get the 2 seed. Please point OKC’s 3 stars to get the 1 seed back to back years (Chet and JW are not stars without SGA,) or better yet the Nuggets stars 2 and 3 (Joker is a given.) If only Jaden, Naz, NAW, DDV, Rudy, and of course Randle ;) had shown the ability to step up in the right situation. They may lack consistency, but they the ceiling for it.

This is where we have different philosophy :D I like to get another all star not name Beal who could fill it 80% of the time and let DDV fill the other 10%. If I go by salary to great games, a 50mil guy will have more great games than two 25mil guy. Unless it's Zion.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1122 » by winforlose » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:06 pm

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TimberKat wrote: agree with 200%. However, role players cannot fill the star/stat gap because what separates a role player and a star player is the consistency of how often they put up star numbers. Corey Brewer could fill the super star gap but only one night (52 points) of his career.


Which is why having 6 or 7 who can do it often enough is good enough. Please point out Houston’s 3 stars to get the 2 seed. Please point OKC’s 3 stars to get the 1 seed back to back years (Chet and JW are not stars without SGA,) or better yet the Nuggets stars 2 and 3 (Joker is a given.) If only Jaden, Naz, NAW, DDV, Rudy, and of course Randle ;) had shown the ability to step up in the right situation. They may lack consistency, but they the ceiling for it.

This is where we have different philosophy :D I like to get another all star not name Beal who could fill it 80% of the time and let DDV fill the other 10%. If I go by salary to great games, a 50mil guy will have more great games than two 25mil guy. Unless it's Zion.


Maybe, but we had one of those, and traded him away. KD is not the answer either. You need someone with a future on the Wolves. Minimum of 3 years under contract would be preferable. DJM was my choice for an affordable 2nd banana but he got seriously hurt.
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Post#1123 » by Neeva » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:42 pm

The problem I have with Durant is the Nets and Suns had the insurance knowing that if things did not work out with Durant they would be able to trade him away and get/recoup assets, the wolves won’t have that insurance. If Durant leaves them a dumpster fire like the Suns and Nets, wolves aren’t getting anything for a 39 year old Durant and they will be approaching Ant’s prime with a major shortage of assets to build a contender and with Ant probably wanting out.
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Post#1124 » by Neeva » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:46 pm

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Which is why having 6 or 7 who can do it often enough is good enough. Please point out Houston’s 3 stars to get the 2 seed. Please point OKC’s 3 stars to get the 1 seed back to back years (Chet and JW are not stars without SGA,) or better yet the Nuggets stars 2 and 3 (Joker is a given.) If only Jaden, Naz, NAW, DDV, Rudy, and of course Randle ;) had shown the ability to step up in the right situation. They may lack consistency, but they the ceiling for it.

This is where we have different philosophy :D I like to get another all star not name Beal who could fill it 80% of the time and let :DDV fill the other 10%. If I go by salary to great games, a 50mil guy will have more great games than two 25mil guy. Unless it's Zion.


Maybe, but we had one of those, and traded him away. KD is not the answer either. You need someone with a future on the Wolves. Minimum of 3 years under contract would be preferable. DJM was my choice for an affordable 2nd banana but he got seriously hurt.


DJM showed on the hawks how over-rated he was though? I think at this point our second banana will probably come from the draft..
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Post#1125 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Apr 17, 2025 11:55 pm

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TimberKat wrote:This is where we have different philosophy :D I like to get another all star not name Beal who could fill it 80% of the time and let :DDV fill the other 10%. If I go by salary to great games, a 50mil guy will have more great games than two 25mil guy. Unless it's Zion.


Maybe, but we had one of those, and traded him away. KD is not the answer either. You need someone with a future on the Wolves. Minimum of 3 years under contract would be preferable. DJM was my choice for an affordable 2nd banana but he got seriously hurt.


DJM showed on the hawks how over-rated he was though? I think at this point our second banana will probably come from the draft..


Yeah. Murray is a very good player, but he's not a 2nd star on a contender.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1126 » by Domejandro » Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:34 am

DeJounte Murray has never been a substantially positive impact player by any metric. It's a drum I've been beating for a while, teams trading high value over the years has always perplexed me.
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Post#1127 » by winforlose » Fri Apr 18, 2025 12:39 am

I know this year was tough for DJM, I don’t know how much was the injury and how much was straight up underperforming. I remember him being a high stats guy with the spurs and having decent defense. With the Hawks I think we saw that he prefers to be on ball, and Young seemed to need the ball as well. I like him for us because he gets the ball out of Ant’s hands and could hopefully set the table. That said, I will defer to you guys on this.
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Post#1128 » by Klomp » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:45 am

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Post#1129 » by Neeva » Sat Apr 19, 2025 12:54 am

It just looks like Trae is so done with the Hawks.
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Post#1130 » by Neeva » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:37 am

Mitchell would have been a good backup pg for the wolves.
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Post#1131 » by Klomp » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:49 am

Neeva wrote:Mitchell would have been a good backup pg for the wolves.

Nobody wanted that at the deadline, let's be real....
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1132 » by TimberKat » Sat Apr 19, 2025 1:50 am

I was hoping for a Hawks win so Erik Spoelstra would be the hottest free agent this summer.
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Post#1133 » by Klomp » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:08 am

TimberKat wrote:I was hoping for a Hawks win so Erik Spoelstra would be the hottest free agent this summer.

No way a serious franchise would make such a knee-jerk move
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1134 » by TimberKat » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:15 am

Dallas desperately missed Luka's defense. Gave up 39 in the first qtr.
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Post#1135 » by winforlose » Sat Apr 19, 2025 2:34 am

The Heat badly needed that playoff spot. By giving up this years pick they saved 2 unprotected picks going forward.
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Post#1136 » by younggunsmn » Sat Apr 19, 2025 4:49 am

TimberKat wrote:Dallas desperately missed Luka's defense. Gave up 39 in the first qtr.


The thing that strikes me about Dallas is that they've still got all these roleplayers they brought in to play with Luka Doncic who are completely useless now and just plain look lost without him.

Memphis tried several times to give that game back and Dallas said no thank you.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two 

Post#1137 » by Neeva » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:18 pm

Man bringing Kriss Dunn back would have been perfect, he’s perfect backup pg, plays great defense and has improved his shot drastically.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1138 » by Neeva » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:30 pm

Ryan Ruoco’s voice is so **** annoying, glad we won’t get that guy in Lakers series.
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Post#1139 » by winforlose » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:30 pm

Denver should foul. Up 3 10.9 no time outs for LAC. Foul quickly.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1140 » by Neeva » Sat Apr 19, 2025 10:40 pm

Clippers lost because their bench is crap and too many turnovers by Leonard and Harden but Zubac did an admirable job on Jokic, like he always does.

If clippers lose this series I can see them wanting to make some trades I wouldn’t mind getting Zubac, Dunn, Jones jr and picks( if clippers have any) for Rudy tbh.

Then trade Randall, jones jr,miller,conley,31 etc for Durant.

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