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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1141 » by C.lupus » Wed Mar 3, 2010 3:46 pm

Thanks, that's what I thought but I didn't know if I missed something with the talk of drafting Turner and Barnes.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1142 » by Devilzsidewalk » Wed Mar 3, 2010 7:58 pm

Foye wrote:
Devilzsidewalk wrote:if we get Aldrich I doubt we keep Jefferson and Love, most likely Jefferson would be out


I know thats why I posted Pekovic in brackets


I know, thats why I had my fingers crossed when I posted, cuz I was kidding
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1143 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Mar 4, 2010 2:55 am

shangrila wrote:
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shangrila wrote:I think the team has to go with 2 wings with its first few picks. They're so thin there it's not funny while the big man positions are covered (well, more covered then the wings).

Personally I don't see the appeal of Aldrich. Yeah he's a safe pick but that's not what this team needs. Whiteside might have more risk but his potential reward is so much higher I'd rather the team go for him then Aldrich who honestly looks like he's peaked.

Aldrich has room to grow, he could still become a much better offensive player than what he is. He gets good position but his touch is kind of iffy. He is a force on defense, seriously his numbers back it up to an extent, but he does alot of stuff that goes unnoticed in the boxscore(kind of like Kevin Love). He disrupts almost every shot in the paint.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1144 » by cpfsf » Thu Mar 4, 2010 3:52 am

Aldrich's numbers will be lowered just a bit because his teammates are so talented. I still think they are the #1 team.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1145 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Mar 4, 2010 4:06 am

cpfsf wrote:Aldrich's numbers will be lowered just a bit because his teammates are so talented. I still think they are the #1 team.

They are so deep, and with the emmergence of Marcus Morris, Aldrich has been getting few plays called for him. He's going to be a damn good player, even if his offense doesn't come around much in the NBA.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1146 » by The J Rocka » Thu Mar 4, 2010 5:09 am

What is ur opinion on Wesley Johnson? I can just picture us getting the 4th pick and taking him. I don't see star potential in him and that's what we really need imo, im not saying bust but i don't see him helping us that much. What do yall think?
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1147 » by cpfsf » Thu Mar 4, 2010 5:45 am

J_Era_3 wrote:What is ur opinion on Wesley Johnson? I can just picture us getting the 4th pick and taking him. I don't see star potential in him and that's what we really need imo, im not saying bust but i don't see him helping us that much. What do yall think?


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He doesn't have a high ceiling or a low floor. I think he's one of the safest picks in the draft. NBA ready. The biggest criticism I hear is his age (which yes sucks), but he has become a far more efficient player. If you look at his stats you can see he has a very nice all around game. Great size 6'7" with a 7' + wingspan. I think he has the tools to be a decent defender. He's a great 3 point shooter that takes a good number of 3 point shots. I'm not saying I would draft him 4th, but if we drafted Turner, I hope we make some **** good offers to Detroit for their pick if he was still available.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1148 » by big3_8_19_21 » Thu Mar 4, 2010 6:31 am

Worm Guts wrote:Barnes is a high school senior, he will not be in this draft. I think the implication is that we would get him next year.


Yeah, I saw him play yesterday. I didn't even know he was playing until I was leaving the weight room and walked by the basketball court and saw his team playing. I guess there was some kind of HS bball tourney at Drake. Ames HS vs. Des Moines North...it was ugly. I only saw the first half. Ames has Harrison Barnes and Doug McDermott, who isn't any Harrison Barnes but he's committed to UNI so he's pretty good in his own right. Ames was up 42-4 at one point. I wish it had been a more competitive game...Barnes clearly didn't give a crap about the game. He was walking up and down the court looking like he was giving it about 20% effort. It's hard to blame him when you're infinitely better than the other team. He had 22 points in the first half and I doubt if he actually broke a sweat. He looked to have a pretty nice shooting stroke, if a little slow...but they did give him all the time in the world so he could really take as much time as he wanted. He hit all three 3's I saw him take. He was stripped once and he just watched them run down the court and blow the open lay-up with literally no pressure (that was funny), but the trailer cleaned it up. Barnes didn't really show off much ball handling or athleticism (except for smashing one lay-up into the stands), but he didn't really need to, either.

Here's the local sports article about the game...not much there, but I guess Barnes ended up with 35 and McDermott had 28. I should have stuck around, I missed Barnes show off some athleticism with a 360 breakaway dunk apparently.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1149 » by Krapinsky » Thu Mar 4, 2010 9:35 pm

If we get that Bobs pick, which is now completely up in the air, I hope we do whatever we can to land Henry. I think there's a big drop off b/t him and other players in that range when considering how good a fit he would be on the Wolves. He coul dplay next to Brewer/Turner/Aminu/Johnson so it doens't really matter what we do with our pick.

Props to Shrink. I thought that Bobs pick was as good as ours, which unfortunately, or fortunately (dpeending on your pov), is proving to not be the case. Should be fun to watch that baby fluctuate as the Bobs battle with the Bucks, Heat, and Bulls for the bottom seed in the East.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1150 » by shangrila » Thu Mar 4, 2010 11:18 pm

Foye wrote:
shangrila wrote:If we could get Turner then Harrison Barnes I think I'd cream everyone's pants.

But you hit the nail on the head. Darko has looked good enough to be a part of the team going forward and assuming he wants to stay he'd be better then anyone else in the draft, so a lot depends on how keen he is to stay.

Personally I don't see the appeal of Aldrich. Yeah he's a safe pick but that's not what this team needs. Whiteside might have more risk but his potential reward is so much higher I'd rather the team go for him then Aldrich who honestly looks like he's peaked.


Whiteside has more potential but IMO - Aldrich would fit great next to Love and Al/Pekovic and is a safe pick. :D

Btw. if we get Barnes and Turner I will immediately move to Minneapolis :D

Aldrich/Jefferson(Pekovic)
Jefferson/Love (Pekovic)
Barnes/Brewer
Turner/Ellington
Rubio/Flynn/Sessions

Amazing :lol:

Eh, Aldrich is a nice fit on paper but I just really want someone that can grow. I can't see Aldrich developing much more, as I'd say he's fairly maxed out physically and his jumpshot, while it goes in, is far to ugly to be a consistent threat and would take MAJOR work to fix. And on top of that I don't like how he's been complacent in not getting touches. I get Henry and Morris are there and maybe they want to develop them a little more, but he's still the best low post player and most of the time is also the one with the best physical tools out there on the court. He should be dominating high percentage shots for his team.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1151 » by shangrila » Thu Mar 4, 2010 11:23 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
shangrila wrote:Personally I don't see the appeal of Aldrich. Yeah he's a safe pick but that's not what this team needs. Whiteside might have more risk but his potential reward is so much higher I'd rather the team go for him then Aldrich who honestly looks like he's peaked.

Aldrich has room to grow, he could still become a much better offensive player than what he is. He gets good position but his touch is kind of iffy. He is a force on defense, seriously his numbers back it up to an extent, but he does alot of stuff that goes unnoticed in the boxscore(kind of like Kevin Love). He disrupts almost every shot in the paint.

I suppose he COULD develop some more post moves or get a nicer touch. But personally I think he's kind of maxed out physically and his jumpshot needs major work (which I guess isn't a problem if Al is leaving). But still I'd rather go for Whiteside of even Cousins then Aldrich at this point, just because I like their potential more then his. That and I don't think Aldrich fits into a running team and with Love already trailing, the team needs a fast big man like Hollins or Whiteside (I know Cousins isn't, but atleast he'd know what he'd have to do having played for a running team in Kentucky)
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1152 » by AQuintus » Thu Mar 4, 2010 11:51 pm

shangrila wrote: (I know Cousins isn't, but atleast he'd know what he'd have to do having played for a running team in Kentucky)


He'd have to collect a rebound and outlet pass, both of which Aldrich is better at. Aldrich is also significantly better on defense, which is the number one requirement for any big man we draft.

I will agree with you on Whiteside, though. I like his fit for the Wolves a little bit more than Aldrich due to his athleticism and improving jump shot.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1153 » by NewWolvesOrder » Fri Mar 5, 2010 12:52 am

Aldrich has a total package defensively, Can Whiteside do anything else on defense except blocking shots? He get pushed around in the paint far too much by other centers for my liking and he's already 20 y.o.

P.S. I think he has better lateral quickness than Aldrich.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1154 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Mar 5, 2010 1:25 am

moss_is_1 wrote:
shangrila wrote:Aldrich has room to grow, he could still become a much better offensive player than what he is. He gets good position but his touch is kind of iffy. He is a force on defense, seriously his numbers back it up to an extent, but he does alot of stuff that goes unnoticed in the boxscore(kind of like Kevin Love). He disrupts almost every shot in the paint.



How does your post make Aldrich seem better than Whiteside?

Whiteside has touch, wait he has an actual jumper. Have u seen Aldrich's jumper? That's uglier than Corey Brewers shot has ever been!

You would like to compare their defense? I'm no stat guru so someone could try and kill me with advanced stats bla bla, but I am pretty sure Whiteside has more potential as a defender.


Whiteside has rooooooom to grow.
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Post#1155 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Mar 5, 2010 1:33 am

Ok turnover, saying can he do anything else besides assist on offense?...is something u never really hear. It's a great skill. I'd say blocking is a BETTER skill than assisting.
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Post#1156 » by Worm Guts » Fri Mar 5, 2010 1:36 am

Ok turnover, saying can he do anything else besides assist on offense?...is something u never really hear. It's a great skill. I'd say blocking is a BETTER skill than assisting.


Aldrich does both.
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Post#1157 » by NewWolvesOrder » Fri Mar 5, 2010 2:42 am

What I love about Cole's shotblocking is that he doesn't have to jump like crazy to swat a shot, he does it Duncan style, he never really loses his position in the paint and doesn't bite on pumpfakes, that's a quality of a good defender. Basically Aldrich is a great system player, he actually reminds me of Love in some ways but he's a true defensive presense, I would actually be fine with trading Love if we could get Cole.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1158 » by dunkonu21 » Fri Mar 5, 2010 8:13 am

We already have a big man who can pass. We need someone who can defend the rim. Whiteside+Love is the best scenario outside of Love+Jeffy.
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1159 » by Esohny » Fri Mar 5, 2010 1:22 pm

dunkonu21 wrote:We already have a big man who can pass. We need someone who can defend the rim. Whiteside+Love is the best scenario outside of Love+Jeffy.


Aldrich can't defend the rim?
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Re: Officlal Prospect thread 

Post#1160 » by Foye » Fri Mar 5, 2010 2:54 pm

Turnover_21 wrote:What I love about Cole's shotblocking is that he doesn't have to jump like crazy to swat a shot, he does it Duncan style, he never really loses his position in the paint and doesn't bite on pumpfakes, that's a quality of a good defender. Basically Aldrich is a great system player, he actually reminds me of Love in some ways but he's a true defensive presense, I would actually be fine with trading Love if we could get Cole.


Keep Love and still trade up in the draft for Aldrich...

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