Around the NBA (Part Four)

[Baseline81]

Clippers as asset-strapped as the Timberwolves now

Which situation do you prefer?

Taking away my bias, I would still prefer the Wolves. And I don't think it's even close.

[younggunsmn]

Wow I did not think Silver would put his big boy pants on.
He really did it. 5 picks.
That's fair after the precedent they set with the Joe Smith debacle.
Now stick to it and don't give them back.

I knew Kawhai would get a slap on the wrist because the league wouldn't want the Labor strife.
Kawhai/NBPA could have taken them to arbitration.
Ballmer will have to use the court system.
But the chances the courts give them their draft picks back are really really small.

[younggunsmn]

Clippers as asset-strapped as the Timberwolves now

Which situation do you prefer?

Not true the Clips will still have 2 unprotected picks and a swap coming from the Raptors once the Leonard trade gets completed.
They also own 6 2nd round picks over the next 7 years.

From 2027-2033 (7 years) we have:
2 1st rounders we owe swap rights on,
one 1st rounder we still own outright (because its frozen).
and one top 50 protected 2nd round pick (memphis),


I would still take our situation over theirs though.

[KGdaBom]

It is consistent with case history though. Joe Smith didn't get any suspensions. He took a 1 year detour to Detroit, them came right back to MInnesota like nothing happened.

Yeah I know that Joe Smith wasn't penalized. Did he go to Detroit? I thought he went directly back to the Wolves. Joe's illegal contracts had a whole lot of incentive and team success language in them IMO this situation is dramatically more egregious.

Yes, Joe went to Detroit, because he was banned from signing with us for 1 year, and he was stripped of his Bird Rights.

The Joe Smith contract was just as bad. He was eligible to sign an 80M contract with GS and he signed with us for 1.75M.

While the public-facing contract was a series of three heavily under-market, one-year deals (starting at $1.75 million), the secret, under-the-table agreement guaranteed Smith massive financial rewards later.

Yes, it had small incentives for things like All-Star appearances and Championships - but those are allowed under the CBA, and they are small incentives.

The primary "incentive" of the illegal pact was a future 7-year contract extension worth up to $86 million.

AND the whole thing was put into a hidden, written agreement.

We disagree. I think this is vastly worse than Joe's secret deal. You don't. It's OK to disagree.

[younggunsmn]

The Bucks just did the whole Joe Smith thing again with Gary Trent Jr.

No punishment because they didn't put anything down on paper I guess.

I agree what the Clippers did with Leonard is more damaging, laundering money through sponsors is a level worse.

[TimberKat]

So ESPN was wrong about no evidence on Clippers. Maybe NBA did find more evidence later What an amazing off season, I just can't get a break from NBA.

I am glad Kuminga isn't great at endorsing products. However, if he could sign like Oladipo, I am sure we could help him sold out a few Target center concerts.

I think the Kawhi+PG deal now looks like SGA+10 1st picks . Ballmer now needs to come up with even more 'creative' solution to build a team

[BlacJacMac]

Do we know if the Toronto trade is going through?

All the talk about more stuff coming out could potentially affect Kawhi’s availability.

[Klomp]

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[Klomp]

Do we know if the Toronto trade is going through?

All the talk about more stuff coming out could potentially affect Kawhi’s availability.

Read on Twitter

[Devilzsidewalk]

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inspirational for Cody Williams and other 20% shooters

[Neeva]

Brunson and the Knicks are next, after the dodgers, go Torre!

[KGdaBom]

Do we know if the Toronto trade is going through?

All the talk about more stuff coming out could potentially affect Kawhi’s availability.

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They said Kawhi didn't know anything was wrong?????????? Alllllrrriiiiiiigggggggggggggghhhhhhtttttttyyyyyyyyyy then. I have some nice Oceanfront Property here in Sedona Arizona at a great deal for him.

[minimus]

Completely agree.

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[BlacJacMac]

Yeah, I think people like the idea of Myles Turner better than the reality.

Its great that he blocks shots and hits 3s. Rebounds like a SF and he doesn't really do anything else defensively.

[Klomp]

Completely agree.

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Between him and Jerami Grant

[younggunsmn]

For what he gave them last year, yes, that's a horrible contract for Turner.

If he's putting up 17/7/2, anchoring the defense, and shooting in the high 30s from 3 like he did his last 3 years in Indiana, it's not a bad deal.

We're paying Gobert 36.5/38 the next 2 years, if he has a down year you culd say the same thing about him.

[Note30]

Completely agree.

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The season really needs to start.

I mean that's a crazy statement. One of the worst? Really?

He was a starter for a Finals team two years ago.

He's a middle of the road center. I don't want him here, but there's no reason Milwaukee should try to find someone to take his contract.

[cmoss84]

When we can combine salaries…

Atl: Turner, Ware, and TSJ
Mil: Daniels and Cody Williams
MN: Newell and Markovic

[Mattya]

Completely agree.

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The season really needs to start.

I mean that's a crazy statement. One of the worst? Really?

He was a starter for a Finals team two years ago.

He's a middle of the road center. I don't want him here, but there's no reason Milwaukee should try to find someone to take his contract.

Plus he went from one of the best passers in the league to playing with nobody to set him up. He would absolutely be a good fit here if Joan shows out and has the right contract length to not screw our finances long term. It’s what you get on top of Turner being in a bad situation that could also matter long term.

[Mattya]

Walker Kessler just got more money doing less, with minimal games played, and it cost the Lakers picks to do that and people are calling Turner one of the worst contracts in NBA history?